A Rad and Mellow Reunion: Connecting with My Beloved Soul Dog Rad and Deepening My Bond with Mellow, Featuring Animal Communicator Julie Hirt

Speaker 1 So, this episode is one I've been waiting for with all my heart. Today I'm joined by my friend and animal communicator, Julie Heert, whose gift helped me connect with my beloved soul dog Rad during his brain tumor diagnosis and even after he passed. Julie and I have both been through significant life changes since we last connected. So today's episode is our chance to reconnect, share, and honor Rad's memory. Today, not only are we having a conversation I feel like I've been waiting for for so long about the magic, mystery, and incredible gifts that animals bring into our lives, but we're also doing a live animal communication

Speaker 1 session that I have really been so dreaming about since Rad passed in July. We figured we might as well record it because both of us truly believe in sharing lessons and gifts, especially the ones we're discovering through the inevitable pain of losing our pets. I couldn't have comprehended how intense this pain would be, but the lessons, the magic, the beauty, and the love that has come through it all has been nothing short of profound. I also want to share something that feels really important to me right now. I see myself as a woman of science, but also as a deeply spiritual person of spirit and magic.

Speaker 1 And yet, the more I live, the more I discover that spirit and science seem to be one and the same. That's a topic I'll dive deeper into in another episode later this season. But for now, just consider this. If any part of you is thinking animal communication, you're speaking to the spirit of an animal? Really? If you feel any doubt or skepticism, I want to normalize that, so did I. And yet I always say, see for yourself what resonates. If it doesn't resonate, you know what I say. The first part of masterful listening is asking yourself whether you're genuinely interested in what you're listening to. And

Speaker 1 if you're genuinely interested in what it's like to not just communicate with animals through an animal communicator, but also to realize that we all have this ability within ourselves to just tune in more, right? To connect more with our pets. And if this all sounds a bit crazy to you, that's great too. I hope you go and do something else that resonates with you. And I mean that with love, right? Skepticism is natural, by the way, and it's normal. Yet the first moment I spoke to Julie, I knew that she was the real deal. So as you listen today, notice anything that comes up. Trust yourselves,

Speaker 1 use your discernment. The whole point of masterful listening is that it starts internally, but make sure you're not listening too much to the fearful skeptic inside of you. Instead, listen to your heart and your gut because they're often more aligned with the wisdom that we're all seeking. So today, as you tune back in to the world's yes, first super rad listening school, you're going to be invited to masterfully listen in a big, deep way. I can already guarantee I'll be extremely emotional and probably crying, as I have in every animal communication session I've done. Notice what it's like for you as well, because this will be

Speaker 1 one of the most meaningful conversations of my life. I'm okay being vulnerable enough to share this openly because I truly believe that if even one person can benefit from my experiences, my pain, my triumphs, then I'm serving my purpose. And Julie is such an incredible human being that I feel deeply grateful she found the time to come on the show. So let me introduce Julie so that you know a little bit more about her. Julie Hirt is a certified soul-level animal communicator, certified heart, animal, soul professional communicator, certified soul-level intuitive coach, and a certified spirit animal sacred alchemy practitioner. Her substat column, Trust the Animals, shares

Speaker 1 coaching messages from animals and a special series on grief. She's also a teaching assistant for the Danielle McKinnon School and the co-host of the Animal Communication Podcast on mindbodyspirit.fm. Julie celebrates the partnership we all have with our pets and believes our pets are our life coaches. Her own dog pack, made up of both alive and in-spirit members, has guided her through trauma and physical injury. These experiences led her to co-create a life she never imagined for herself, and now she helps others do the same with their beloved pets. And with that, welcome back, masterful listeners.

Speaker 1 Hi, Svet. I'm so happy to be here. Oh my gosh. I'm so really I'm so happy that you're here. We've uh gosh, we've been kind of texting back and forth for months, and just we finally found the time. It's also the full moon, I realized today. Yep, yep.

Speaker 2 In Taurus, big, it's a big one. It's good. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And thanks for your patience. My as you know, my dad passed away a couple months ago, and we were, and it just was uh it just was hard, right? So thanks for the patience and until we could finally connect. But I was watching the whole episode with Mello and everything on Instagram, so it was so beautiful to watch all of that unfold and continue to unfold. And I can't wait to hear what Rad has to say.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Wow, first of all, of course, and I'm I just kept sending you love. Obviously, I was in my own state of grief, losing Rad, but all grief, as we very well know. And I'm sure the listeners out there know it's it's it's this journey of waves that just hit you sometimes out of nowhere. So I always say everything is, you know, we're exactly perfectly on time. I'm trusting that, you know, now that I've actually got to spend more time with Mello, which by the way, for the listeners, if you're not familiar with the whole story, go back and listen to the other episodes.

Speaker 1 But essentially, I I want to provide a little context also to those listening around how I even met Julie and kind of how we even got to this moment before we actually do a live animal communication session, which again, I've been we we haven't been able to do it since Rad passed. We did two, I believe, while he was still here. And then his passing was quite sudden, very unexpected. Honestly, it happened so fast, and then this new doggy came into my life, and it's just been such a whirlwind that the idea of just connecting and speaking to rad and then Mello, I'm just like, oh

Speaker 1 my gosh. Oh my gosh, okay. But before we dive into that, let me give a little context to the listener because again, we are in school. So, first of all, welcome back, masterful listeners. Thank you so much for being here. I'm also so grateful because even though I haven't really, I didn't have the same commitment to keeping the show going at the same pace because when Rad passed, I I mean, I I literally my legs broke. Like what happened to me and my grief was something I'd never even expected. So I was going through a lot of health issues and grief, but I did finally find

Speaker 1 it in me to wrap up the last season. It was an episode dedicated to Rad's legacy. It was actually the most listened to episode in the past year, which was interesting. I mean, people love dogs. I feel like if you've ever had a dog, like a soul animal out there, you probably know how just special that bond is. So, this episode, well, first of all, it's for anyone who wants to learn how to be a better listener. So that's just the bottom line for every episode. But this one in particular is first of all dedicated to Rad and Mello and Julie. What's your dog's name? Lucas.

Speaker 1 Yes, hi Lucas. So I want to dedicate it to just all the animals out there who bring us so much uh joy, uh lessons. I keep saying Mello is my best teacher of patience I've ever had. So thank you to the animals. And so, and for the listener, as a most likely human being, uh, this is for those who maybe you're grieving the loss of a pet. Maybe you have a sick pet. Maybe you have a perfectly healthy pet and yay, and you just want to connect more to your pet, right? Maybe you're just curious about animal communication, right? What a fascinating genre that I didn't

Speaker 1 even know existed, even though I'm a deeply spiritual psychic myself. I was like, whoa, this sounds so cool. I want to learn more about it. I was desperate to understand what was happening when Rad got diagnosed. So again, I met Julie. I got her info because a good friend of mine said, you know, I know this amazing woman. She really helped me when I had some issues with my dog. I think she would help you. And I follow the breadcrumb trail. So I contacted you and like from the first time that we connected, I remember you said something to me about Rad. Like, he I'm seeing

Speaker 1 blueberries. And that's when I was like, dude, uh, this is crazy. Because I was me and Rad ate blueberries together. And that's not like a normal thing that like people do with their dogs necessarily. So when you said that, I was just like, okay, I don't know what she's doing or how she's doing what she's doing, but your guidance, first of all, thank you so much again. Like you truly, I feel like I relied so heavily on your support throughout this whole time. So I just want you to know again, thank you so much. It's really, my God, I am gonna get emotional, but great. Um,

Speaker 1 thank you before welcome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you're welcome. It I'm happy to be of service. You know, I will just say real quickly, grief is a thing that we as a culture do not deal with. You add pet loss grief into that mix, and it's hardly ever discussed. I mean, barely even mentioned, honored. We don't get bereavement time for pet loss grief, and it can be sometimes more debilitating than losing a human. So it's yes, so I've absolutely it is my it's a calling, I think, and it's absolutely a pleasure. However, I can help people through because I've had it too, and it it has knocked me out. And yeah, however, I

Speaker 2 can help people with pet loss grief is is one of the things I try to do.

Speaker 1 Well, you do it really well, and really I funny enough, funny enough, I don't know if that's the word, but through this time I realized, which I wouldn't have believed if someone told me two years ago that I think I'm meant to also specifically help people with pet grief. Like I see this rad clinic because if somebody would have told me that A, I would meet a dog at 37 suddenly that I'd fall so in love with, I would have been like, that's not gonna happen. It didn't make any sense. And then that losing him, which by the way, I thought might actually kill me. Like

Speaker 1 I really was terrified of what I would do, but it didn't kill me. It just literally like my whole foundation broke. Like I I've just now started walking two weeks ago without my cane. So, again, for anyone out there who doesn't know the story, I'll I'll quickly mention some details, but feel free to look at that. Essentially, losing rad uh just completely collapsed my body. So that's been also fascinating to look at the synergy of how our emotions are connected to our physical body, how you know, mind, body, spirit, it's all connected. And wow, uh I am so grateful, honestly, throughout everything that actually now I

Speaker 1 feel, even though I miss rad still so much, but I feel rad now. Like you told me right away, you said look for signs, ask him, ask him for signs, and it takes some time. And at first I couldn't connect to him, but I desperately wanted to, and then that shifted. So before we get into that though, I want to say for the listener, how do I invite you to listen today? So there's so many lenses through which we can always listen. And why this particular episode I think is so connected to the whole point of the show is what is masterful listening, right? It's that

Speaker 1 you are fully present in the moment that you're in, meaning you're listening to the words you hear, but also what's beyond the words, the energy that's present. So as me and Julie talk, notice her and I might have a different tone or a different pace or say different things. What are you noticing? How are you feeling as you're really being present? And if you notice yourself getting distracted, because you might just come back. This show is like a meditative listening practice. And honestly, one of the greatest gifts that Rad gave me was the gift of presence. He was so present, he was always there. I feel

Speaker 1 like Rad was like the greatest masterful listener. And I tell Melo all the time, yo, you want to be a little more like your brother? Because Melo doesn't seem to be at least listening to me as much, but he's definitely listening to the world. Like when we're out, he's like, Squirrel, this, that. He's really paying attention, which sometimes makes my life a little bit more challenging. But the point is be present and remain curious and just notice what comes up for you. It might get emotional. Uh, if you've had pet loss or grief, you might get emotional. Take care of yourself and um we'll see what

Speaker 1 happens. And at the end, we'll check in and see how it goes, and we'll give you some homework, but we're gonna figure out what that homework is together later. Julie, is there anything you want to add around like an invitation for the listener of how you think it would help to listen?

Speaker 2 Yeah, absolutely. So, what I find is every single animal communication session, while yes, it is your animal talking with you, there is always a nugget of what they're talking about that's for me and for anyone else who witnesses the session. So, for example, in the pet loss grief session, pet loss grief circle that I just hosted one on Sunday, there were eight eight other people there. And so there's little threads that begin to appear. So while the specifics are directed at you, the pet guardian, there's just this other weavy thing. And so if you can take, if you can pay attention to what those little pings

Speaker 2 for you are like, wow, that makes sense to me. And that's not even my dog. That message is for you because Rad and Mellow, even though they're here for you, Svet, they're here for me, they're here for everyone. But they're gonna focus their attention on you. But that's everything's connected, so we're all one. So everything starts to come through and make sense a little bit for everybody. So just pay attention to that.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I love that. I I always say there really aren't any coincidences. I believe that more today than ever before, even like with how much rad I feel like has been sending me signs in so many ways. As I've been, gosh, I mean, I really got scared. I couldn't move. I was in so much pain. And so I got sent to get x-rays at Radnet. On my MRI results, there was some section literally that said rad, my hypnotherapist I met because I was like, it's time to quit my on-again, off-again smoking habit because my inflammation went through the roof. His name was Andy Radder. Well,

Speaker 1 raider, but I call him Radder, R-A-D. He referred me to a chiropractor because I was like, I needed help, but I needed a gentle one. He said, I know one person. He's the only one I trust. What's his name? Robert Adamich. He goes by Rad, Dr. Rad. So I was like, come on, really, Rad. Like at some point I just kept smiling, thinking, uh, if these are not signs, then I don't know what are. So that's one of the things I want to confirm through our session today. Like, Rad, have you actually been sending me signs, or am I just making shit up to feel better?

Speaker 1 Frankly, that's fine too. Frankly, I say, if if like you gotta deal with grief by making up stories, I actually think by the way, that's fine. And I don't know, it feels too much of a coincidence.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Mm-hmm. So before we get into anything, Julie, would you? I don't know. I just want to hear how did you get into this work? Like what led you? Because this is a very interesting field. Yeah. So um share a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 Sure. So um it probably started back when back in the day, Oprah did live your best life or something like that. And she used to have on intuitive. So she had Rosemary Altea, John Edwards, Carolyn Mace, things like that. My dad and I, coincidentally, used to watch those, and then we would talk about because his mother had passed, and then we would talk about the signs and synchronicities. So there was that. So the the groundwork was laid, I think, by just and being intrigued by all of it. And then fast forward to 2016, I was living in Anchorage, Alaska with my husband and that my two

Speaker 2 dogs, India and Bono. And they the two dogs passed away within six months of each other. First India and then Bono. They were 15 plus. So it wasn't surprising, it was still heartbreaking, right? And especially when Bono passed, I just fell into this deep depression. And again, because I was working full-time in an advertising agency, of course, while they were supportive, you know, support only goes for them so far, you know, for most people so far, like days. And I just had a really hard time getting out of bed. I had a really hard time moving forward, moving in any direction. And I have a really

Speaker 2 good friend in Anchorage who does cranial sacral and other types of energetic work. And she said, you know what? She's like, your dogs keep appearing in our sessions, and they're telling me that you need to become an animal communicator. Now I had used animal communicators throughout their transitions to help understand, you know, is it time? Do I when do I make the decision? Do I have to make that decision of euthanasia? Um, but I'd never thought, ever thought of doing it myself. And so when my friend told me, no, you really should try it, then I went to a school called the Lightfoot Way, got my

Speaker 2 first certification, and and then I was still in advertising. I was burning out in advertising and I'm out walking with Lucas. It was January, we're still in Anchorage, it was cold, it was uh the sun was starting to go down, and I was arguing with my husband that I'm gonna stay in advertising, even though it's killing me, because I was really what I was really saying was I was too afraid to do this work full time. Well, Lucas heard me and he came barreling at me at a high rate of speed and broke my leg. And this is in 2019, so this is before COVID. Zoom

Speaker 2 was just becoming a thing, and so I had good six months of recovery, but I was out of the office. So I was I got so he seriously knocked me off my pins in an effort to get me out of a burnout situation where I could begin to explore other ways, other things, what made my heart sing. And I stumbled on Danielle McKinnon, whose dog looks exactly like Lucas.

Speaker 3 I saw that.

Speaker 2 And I'm and I'm just like, and she was gonna be at the Omega Institute, which is in Rhinebeck, New York. It's started by Elizabeth Lesser. Um, and I've always wanted to go to the Omega Institute. Now at this point, I can't walk, right? But I'm thinking her dog looks like Lucas. I've always wanted to go there. All right, I'm gonna follow the signs. And I went, and that was five years ago, and I now TA for her. My life's changed completely. I do this work full time. I am, I'm I'm just amazed at as long, it's just like what you were saying. You follow the rads,

Speaker 2 right? You follow the points, and your life will change. And it's all because my dog, who was like going, no, and Indian Bono sent Lucas. That's the other thing, which we'll probably get into with Rad and Mello, but they sent Lucas because they knew there was more to be done. And I know Lucas continually works with me. He's not done coaching me yet. He won't be done when he crosses. I know it's To happen someday, but you know, God forbid. Um, but it's if if you are destined to do something, your animals are here to help you fulfill it. And they can even be wild animals,

Speaker 2 but that's another topic. But it's just everything, right? We're all again, we're all connected, we're all one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I love that story. I love that story for so many reasons. I was even starting before I met you, I'd started seeing Danielle's videos on TikTok randomly, and she just looks like me kind of. She has this big red hair, so I just noticed her. And I, of course, my TikTok feed is filled with dog videos. It's like dog videos and then like spiritual quotes of inspiration and like some other stuff. Because you know, it's like it shows you what you like. And I started listening to some of what she said even before Rad suddenly got diagnosed. Because again, one day Rad's fine, and then

Speaker 1 suddenly Rad has a seizure, and my whole life just changed in a moment. April 13th. I remember the day because that's my number. Like I will never forget that. The day he passed, July 3rd, right before July 4th, Independence Day. I literally had Independence Day, the first day alone ever here without him. It was just, it felt so cruel and so profound. It's like at so many moments, I was like, gosh, there's some bigger plan. And I always said that, but in the moments where it gets real tough, it can be hard to believe that, right? And yet now I hear your story even, like everything

Speaker 1 is connected. Like I got your name and I actually followed up with you. Like, think of how often we hear something or are curious, but we don't follow that breadcrumb trail, right? And we don't take that step. So again, here we are. And hearing that Lucas broke your leg, I'm like, wow, apparently we both have dogs that are somehow that literally broke our legs. My legs didn't break because something hit me. It's weird. I had injuries that doctors were like, we've never seen injuries like this unless people had an accident. And I'm like, my accident was like heartbreak, which was again very rare. I I've actually

Speaker 1 never necessarily heard of it, but the more I started researching, the more I started finding, oh yeah, like absolutely grief cannot necessarily like tear your meniscus like what happened to me. But if you're already having some underlying issues and suddenly you get faced with like the biggest, like rad was the love of my life. I was joking that I was waiting for this beautiful man to show up to be just stoic and have a beard and want to hang out and snuggle. And I'm like, that was rad. I didn't think it'd be a dog, but but it was. And oh my gosh, 610 days I had

Speaker 1 rad. It felt like such a little amount of time. It felt like, how is that fair? How is life doing this? And then I had a moment one day where I was like, I had 610 whole days of pure, amazing love. Like every day with Rad was the best day ever. Truly, he was so easy. That's why this thing with Mello has been like, holy oh my goodness, this is so different. It's so much harder in a lot of ways, and yet I'm like, oh my god, I'm so in love with him. I know he's my next soul dog. I know Rad sent him. It just

Speaker 1 feels like well, maybe I don't know. Maybe I'll find out. But I was like, this must all be happening. So again, I want the listener to even consider like what breadcrumb trails are coming to you, and have you been following them? Because just being here with you, even is like a miracle, magic, and yet we're just paying attention, right? Again, we're listening. So you got into this work, now you do this work. What else do you think is like if you could have everyone in the world have a message or know something about animals or animal communication? Like, what do you think would serve people to

Speaker 1 know that you've learned?

Speaker 2 Uh, I would say for sure two things. One, animals are all about unconditional love. And they don't live with the baggage or necessarily the fear that we do to move forward. They may have fear from an instinctual perspective in an effort to make sure, you know, they they're not hunted or they're not killed, you know, that type of thing. Um, but from a day-to-day perspective, they're out and about doing what they need to do. And it's all there is no fear, there's no baggage, there's no none of that the stuff that we create, these systems that we put in place that, you know, just create all

Speaker 2 this other hardship and whatnot. They're not about any of that. So, because of that, the second thing to me is that, and people have a hard time with the second part, is that we're not the ones necessarily in charge that we think we are. We always think that the human species is above everything else and more intelligent than everything else. And yet, science will actually right now tell you that there's so much more to what intelligence actually means. And we've always defined it on our own intelligence, which has absolutely limited us. So if we look at animals as more than just, you know, the dog we

Speaker 2 have to care for or we have to worry about, or we have to put this energy over, and instead come at them and try to meet them where they are, the the it just totally opens everything up and the lessons start flowing. And you realize your partners, you're just two different species. That's it. And the rest is there. I mean, you can communicate with plants, you can communicate with, you know, mushrooms and my sil, all of it, right? So yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I that just super lands with me. I I said the whole time, I realized right away that Rad was my teacher. I I don't think I realized how great of a teacher he would be, but truly, he was the best teacher I've ever had because what he gave me in 610 days felt deeper than what I'd learned the rest of my life. But maybe it was just that. I feel like he came in now, and again, I can say this now without even bawling. Because at first I couldn't even talk about Rad, like without completely crying. And by the way, that's normal. Let's

Speaker 1 just normalize that having feelings when you're in grief, like feel your feelings. I really want to encourage people. Like, I had the kind of breakdowns that I swear it reminded me of something I would have seen in like if you've ever seen like a shamanic awakening. I mean, I was screaming and crying. I was, I my body felt like it was literally on fire. I couldn't move in those first in that first week. I was terrified. I ended up in the ER because I was like, what is going on with me? So, like the the the grief, the emotion was uh deep. Now I can even

Speaker 1 like I look at photos of Rad. And sometimes it's still really hard. I'll still have those big waves, but overall, I wear my necklace with his ashes. I talk to him, I feel connected to him, but still, it it comes in waves. So feel your feelings, normal. In fact, I think we need to process them, right? I think it's when we don't that I mean everything becomes even harder.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we get to create the story of who our animals are to us and consider in Hawaiian. I love it. You know that word they say uh it's like you're a Kahu, meaning you're not an owner, you're like um uh what's the word? What's it called?

Speaker 2 Do you know what it what I know the concept you're about to say, and I can't remember the translation.

Speaker 1 Steward, that's it. Yes, I love that, like a guide, and I really feel like we're guiding each other, and I am responsible. Like I want to take good care of Mellow, right? I want to make sure I'm feeding Mello really well. I want to make sure I'm helping him walk enough, right? Because Mello, for example, is younger than Rad. And also I accidentally adopted a husky, which was also hilarious because I said that the Rad was a cattle dog. He was a cattle dog Jack Russell Beagle, but mostly cattle dog. And of course, I feel like we all kind of fall in love with the breed

Speaker 1 of dog that we have. That's common. So I said, I will know when I meet the dog. It wasn't even about what breed, but I said to myself, there's no way I'd ever get a husky or a German shepherd because huskies, they're beautiful, but they scream. And I was like, there's no way I'm dealing with that. Literally, that's why I didn't have kids. And then German Shepherds, I thought were amazing, but they kind of scared me. And funny enough, Mello ended up being a husky cattle dog German Shepherd. And I'm just like, seriously, because he's brown. So I say he like fooled me. I didn't know.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh my God, I accidentally got a 65-pound baby who is so loud. Rad was so quiet. I had to put a bell on him. So the irony and the cosmic joke is Rad was mellow. Mellow is so rad, but he's not always mellow. And so here we are again. And I've been like, what is happening? Because I thought I might have to give mellow away. I was so injured, I couldn't even stand. So how am I supposed to take care of a 65-pound dog who wasn't trained in any way, pulls, has anxiety. That's where I was like, Julie, help! Like, what do I

Speaker 1 do? But then I thought there there's no way this is an accident. This must be part of the plan. And you did say to me, you said, Rad wants you to know that like you still have work to do with animals, your work isn't done, and him and Mello are working together. That's why I'm like, yo, guys, can you tell me what's going on? I think I have some ideas, but oh my gosh, I'm getting so excited. I feel like, do you wanna when should we do this session? Or is there anything else that you feel like we should share? You should share before.

Speaker 2 What do you think? I think there's just one little thing I just have to tell you because Rad's gonna make me tell you this. So when when my when my father was uh ill first and then passing, and you were reaching out because Mello was pushing all your buttons, right? Which understandably so. And I am actually a caregiver soul type. So if anybody ever follows Ainsley McLeod and you learn your soul type and things like that, I'm a soul, I'm a caregiver. So I really wanted to like help. I just I didn't have the bandwidth. And I swear to you, Rad came and like pushed me

Speaker 2 back. Like I think I was hovering over my phone reading your text, and I pushed me back, and he's like, She's got this. Let her go. I'm like, okay. And I know I even referred you to a colleague just to keep to keep getting some support, but he's like, She's got this, she's got this, let her go. And I'm like, okay, I trust you. And then here it's all kind of work back together on the full moon in Taurus. So there you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is where the tears are coming. I swear. It's like,

Speaker 1 I did got it. It's just like I really I wanted, you know, think about how often we're like, no, I need someone else to help me. And and and I did, right? Like that woman you connected me to, by the way. Shout out to Nina. Gosh, what's her last name? She's so wonderful. Yes, Nina Roberti, another amazing animal communicator. By the way, I'll post a I'll post Julie's contact and Nina's even. Because even though I didn't have a uh actual session with Nina, Nina, again, breadcrumb trail, she sent me to a website where they offer free pro bono medium sessions for people. Because again, I was

Speaker 1 in a horrible financial state too. I mean, Rad's just his MRI cost six or eight thousand. It was like the the expenses, and I would have given my right arm or left arm to save Rad. That was another thing that this was so humbling, but ultimately I saw nothing I did mattered. I gave Rad the best food. I gave him literally all the love I could in the entire universe, and I still couldn't really change that he just fell into this massive seizure, and then I had to make the decision to let him go because I didn't want him to suffer and I felt like he

Speaker 1 was suffering. And you had told me, I asked you, how will I know? Because it's the worst thing to have to make this choice. And you told me you will know either if he like loses his bowels, because he's he you said he's classy. He's like, I don't want to do that. And I was like, Okay, because he'd never done that, right? Or you said if he like doesn't want to eat, which also I'm like, rad. I mean, him and Mela both have a very healthy appetite, like their mother. Uh so, but that's what happened when he fell into that sudden seizure. He defecated all over

Speaker 1 himself, and that's when I was like, oh no. And I just wanted to honor him, but I've still that's where I've gotten really sad. Is I'm like, did I make the right decision? Was he ready? Should I have tried more? And it just felt like he would have suffered more. So that's also something I wanted to like ask him. And even I'm sure a lot of people out there are like, they say you'll know, but still feeling like good. Cause like that was the worst thing I could have ever like I hated the fact that I had to make that choice, but I also knew I

Speaker 1 was crawling around with him on the hospital floor. I also really was like, when the time comes, I want someone to come to our house and I want to do it peacefully. And the way it happened, that's just not what could happen. I had to rush him to the hospital. I was already injured. My body started breaking down. That's where I got re-injured. I was crawling around with him. He was so agitated. This lasted hours. And I asked the doctor, could he come out of this? And he said, most likely, if he does, he won't be the same. Like he he's you could tell he was

Speaker 1 not well. And then it was like, I loved him so much that I was like, I have to think of him, not me. But you know, it still creeped up to me. I'm like, did I make the right decision? And then it was like, yo, Rad's so smart. He's like, I hate fireworks. I'm going out the day before. So, you know, this constant like questioning and all of that, I think is also super normal. But ultimately, now I feel like he did exactly what I would have done. He made a choice to, yeah, he went out with a bang and it was so traumatic. And I

Speaker 1 wish it wasn't so painful. But then I feel like he saved both of us so much more pain, interestingly enough, that in a way it's like, I'm so grateful, and yet, oh, you know.

Speaker 2 So yeah, yeah. And for just real quick too, on that, euthanasia means good death. And we we tend not to remember that or know that or even honor that, you know, around all species, I'll say. So that, yeah, we always are afraid we're gonna make the wrong decision. And yet that courageous act of love is usually what I find in this work what they're most one of the things they're most grateful for.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and it took me a while, but I had this realization that I'm actually really glad that it did happen at a hospital and not here, because I feel like if it happened here, it would have actually been worse somehow. Like I would have had a harder time. Cause again, it was letting Rad go. Like, and again, I didn't feel like Rad didn't die. I see it as he passed. I know his spirit is still there. So that's also it tested my own faith because I said that. I was like, no, I believe in spirits, but then you lose the body of someone you love.

Speaker 1 And it's like, oh, do you really? Because if you do, you realize just because you can't be with them and see them and touch them, which is so hard. I just wanted to like pet Rad and where is he? I was like looking for him, and then it's like sometimes I literally feel like when like Mello's really stressing me out, he's there laughing. Like he's like, Oh mom, you wanted to be slow, and wow, you haven't been able to walk. How is it like how is it being slow now? And I say it's like the greatest feeling to actually slow. I mean, I don't like being

Speaker 1 in pain, but actually now that I've literally been forced to slow down, the world has become so much more beautiful. I'm paying more attention. It it like I'm doing better work, like I'm getting better feedback. It's wild. And I always said patience is not my virtue. I want to learn that. I have literally never had a greater teacher of patience than Mello, who is so cute right now, who tests my patience every single day, and I have gotten more patient. That's what's wild. So I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And was it Rad's initial lesson too? Was about, wasn't it something about slowing down? Or at some point in that journey was yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was, it was, you said it was slowing down, having faith. And the other thing I remember you reflected, and so did this medium that I met with through that website, who I had an incredible session with, where I had this incredible breakthrough. Rad said, Mom, you, it's time for you to take care of yourself first. You always take you took care of me and you take care of everyone. And he was right. And now I really like this forced me to be fierce about my boundaries, about who's around me, about taking care of me, which is why on one particular night, and I'm looking

Speaker 1 at Mello right now because I'm realizing, wow, this was really hard for the first. Like, we just started being able to walk together two weeks ago, and I've had him for three months now. I had another angel show up in my life, my friend Abby. Shout out to you. I love you so much. She's like Melo has two moms. And I also thought that too. I said, this time I want to have more faith around my dog. I want to trust more. I was scared with Rad. He was my first dog. I was so like I wanted to be more trusting and let him be free.

Speaker 1 And I felt so bad. I wanted to apologize to Rad that I never let him off the leash. Like I was so worried about him. And with Mello, I want to be more trusting. And the first time I let him off the leash, he ran away. And I was like, well, this is exactly why being ah. So anyway, point is uh Rad told me to take care of myself. So I thought, would giving Mello back be me taking care of me? Because I don't know. He was injuring me. He was actually stressing me out, which was making me more sick. And I really had to sit

Speaker 1 with, well, what is what is the lesson? Did Rad send Mello so that I sent him back to the shelter? I was like, I can't imagine that's the lesson. So then what is it? And it hit me. I said, I have never been able to be in a relationship before where I could balance really loving another and but first taking care of me. And I've wanted to learn that. Like in all my romantic relationships with men, and again, they're both male dogs. I don't think that's a surprise. Also, the two main men healers that showed up in my life, the Rads, they're both around Rad's age,

Speaker 1 like if Rad was in human years, I've never been able to balance how do I love another super deeply, but still put me first. And I feel like he's giving me the chance to navigate that. So, like I've left Mello alone, even though he's screaming the whole time, because I need to go to acupuncture, for example. And I'm finding the right behavioral lists and I'm doing the research. So it's like, I really feel like I accidentally became a mother. I feel like Rad was almost like my parent in a way, and I am Mello's parent, and we're all, it's just so interesting. So, anyway, oh my

Speaker 1 goodness. What a what a ride. So what do you think? Should we do the session or anything else that?

Speaker 2 No, um, I've got Rad here who has been patiently waiting. Very um, very patiently, very strong. I'll just say strongly. Like he's just holding, he's over here on my right hand side, and he's just like, whenever y'all are ready. And he's like, I want, and I can feel him like wanting to go, like, yeah, I can talk to that. Oh, yep. Uh huh. Hey, Mello, get ready. Like, I can hear all that going on. Yeah. So we can just we can we can go ahead and get started because Rad's ready to go. And he does want to talk first, so amazing.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I'm just getting in the mode now where I'm forgetting that there's no audience, there's no one else here. I'm just, hi Rad.

Speaker 2 So what I'll do is just for the just for um, even though no one's listening, for those of you. I hope everybody is in the moment. So I'm gonna connect in, I'm gonna we're formally connect in with Rad, and then he's going to. He is he wants to lead the session. Typically, when I start and there's more than one animal in the session, I will ask who's going first. And one usually takes the lead. So it's going to be Rad. He'll call in Mello when he's ready to allow. And he says it like this allow Mellow to have a platform when I'm ready. And it doesn't,

Speaker 2 he's being a little bit um, I'll say cheeky. Anyway, so I'll get a sense of Rad's personality. We'll see when we get a sense of Mello's personality. Um, we're gonna ask them what we need to know about you, Spat, for the greatest and highest good of this reading. And they're gonna share a little bit about your personality and also probably something that you're beginning to work on, which is what we talk about in the very last portion, which is the soul level lesson. That personality of you sets that up. But in the in between there, between your personality and the lesson, then you'll get to ask

Speaker 2 all the questions that you want to ask. And that's typically how a regular session goes. So we're gonna follow the format for the most part. Okay. Yes. All right, okay. So I'm connecting in with Rad, male dog in spirit, who, as I as I more formally connected and more fully connect in with him, yes, he's absolutely sitting here, but he actually even moves over into my lap and is looking right at you. So if you can imagine him. And what I do feel too at the same time is he's kind of pushing in to me a little bit with his with his popo, with his butt,

Speaker 2 just pushing into me, just so I can feel that he's there. And when he does that, I can feel from the bottom of my belly all the way up into my torso, just this feeling of, oh, he's here. Oh, and I can just feel love, I feel comforted, I feel grounded again, if that makes sense. And that is all for you. That's not necessarily for me, that's all for you. Um, and I'm just sitting with him for just a minute. And oh, he the first thing he wants to say to you, Svet, is he's like, okay, I'm not gonna swear, but he, I'm not gonna swear,

Speaker 2 Rad. So

Speaker 2 I don't want to get bleep bleeped on the podcast. Okay. But I'm so effing proud of you. I'm you have hung in there, is what I'm hearing him say. You have everything I've thrown at you, you have accepted with grace and gratitude. And I'm so proud of you. And we have so much more to do. And he gets really bright, like I can see his eyes get really big, and he gets this smile on his face. He's like, we've got so much more to do. And I'm hearing him say it has something to do with education, um, sharing other things with people. It has, I don't

Speaker 2 know what all it is. He's gonna probably tell a little bit more, but just so you know that right now. Um, the other thing, let me see, is there anything? I'm just gonna ask him if there's anything else about his personality for the greatest and highest good. Oh, of this reading, he comes and you reminded me of the blueberries earlier, but he's coming back to the blueberries because as you were describing the blueberry story earlier, because I had forgotten all about that. Once I leave a session, it's like it's all gone. But when you said the blueberries, I was I had been continually drawn over your

Speaker 2 left shoulder is a star with a blue little swath on it. That that one, yeah, yeah. And so I've been continually drawn to it. So when you said the blueberry, I just kind of looked at it again and he went, uh-huh. Yeah, that's me. So he just wants you to know that he's that's his little place for himself in your in your abode. Is that funny?

Speaker 1 I just put that up today. You know, that's like an art TV. So I change the art all the time, and I was drawn to this one because it's the full moon. So that's interesting because that does look like a blueberry. So maybe I'll maybe I'll keep rat is all over the place, by the way. Rad, I hope you see that you are literally everywhere. I have rad pillow. I mean, it's like rad's everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So yeah. Um, he just wants you to know that, like, he just wants you to know that across the rainbow bridge, life is full of blueberries. And so whenever you actually come across a blueberry, like what he shows me is you're walking on the ground and someone's dropped one, that's him playing a little joke on you, just like, haha, here's your blueberry. He just wants to keep doing that. Um, let me just see, is there anything else he wants to share about his personality? I'm gonna ask him for the greatest and highest good of this reading, but for everybody listening, um.

Speaker 2 So I know um he was a, I'm just gonna use the word dandy. I hope that doesn't offend anybody, but I'm I think of a dandy, I think of, you know, the nice bow tie. And I know you also reminded us of that earlier, too. But he's just saying, like, to some degree, he's kind of he's still that perfect gentleman. Um, and I don't want to say but he's still that perfect gentleman. And at the same time, he's also, oh, you are seriously not gonna say this? Okay, this is what he says. I'm still that perfect gentleman, and I've really mellowed, I swear. That's what he

Speaker 2 just said. Where I'm hearing he's showing me more of moving, like morphing into more like an um easygoing kind of surfer, kind of kind of uh, I almost see like Big Lebowski kind of energy, but not that sloppy. He goes, Never that sloppy. But it's just more of like the embracing of just kind of going with the flow kind of thing, which he kind of did before, but he's just like he's kind of relaxed and he's just saying he's kind of mellowed. And he has been singing to me all day long. You call me mellow yellow all day long. Like every time I turn around and

Speaker 2 hear that song in my head, I'm like, not yet, Rad, we're not ready. Yeah. So he really did say I've mellowed and he thinks it's funny.

Speaker 1 Well, it is funny as I look at this mellow who is so funny. Mellow is so mellow about 90% of the time, and then completely insane 10% of the time. And I joke that he reminds me of me as a child. Yeah, but uh Rad really was mellow, so hearing he's more mellow, good for you, Rad. Like, keep being mellow. I love that about you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. So um, he wants to just go ahead and introduce mellow to everybody, if that's okay, and just kind of get so I'm gonna connect in with mellow, male dog alive, and get a sense of mellow, who, as I do that, and the reason why he's making me smile right away is because, and I have seen him on Instagram, so I do know what he looks like. Usually I don't know what the animal looks like beforehand, um, just because I love how they describe themselves. So, but I do see him as I've seen him on Instagram, but he's like immediately rolling over on his back

Speaker 2 and he's pushing his right arm right up into the air. And as he does that, he gets the goofiest of smiles on his on his face, and he's just like, he does that all the time.

Speaker 3 I'm sorry. Wow. Wait, wait, please keep going. But it's wild because you've never seen him do that. It's crazy. It's just like this really like oh, stretch, like, oh yeah, really moving. I keep telling him he's the best stretcher.

Speaker 1 I've never seen a dog even jump off a bed. He's always stretching his legs. He's really long. Wow, that's so funny.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, and then at the same time, they do this with this really big smile. And I can see like this. I I had a friend in high school whose mom used to say I had imp, which was like, I guess, some kind of like fun, playful energy, like we could be getting into trouble right now, kind of energy in my eyes. And that's what I that's what he shows me in his eyes, is like, oh, we're about to, yep, here we go. Is this whole kind of, but there's such a um when I'm as I'm you know trying to understand everything he's sharing with me,

Speaker 2 there's such a joy in this stretch, like, oh look, I can stretch, and as well as the smile and the eyes. And also he's like, mm-hmm. And then he starts to like push up his sleeves and he's like, mm-hmm, yeah, we're gonna get to work now. Mm-hmm. And he's got this kind of uh attitude, and it never it's serious, but there's never it's never it doesn't sink into a hundred percent seriousness. There's always this foundation of joy. We're gonna have fun doing the work, even if it hurts, we're gonna have fun doing the work, is what I'm hearing him say. Does that make sense so far?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he's so silly, like it's so cute. And I've actually like playing with him has been so fun because Rad did not care about toys. This this guy, Melo, he has so many toys, and I keep getting them because he loves them. So that's actually been so cute. He's also a younger dog than Rad was. I Rad was nine, almost nine, when I adopted Melo, and Melo turned four, or when I adopted him, and Melo was four. So that's a big difference. But he's very goofy and he does. He'll give me these looks where I'm telling you, I feel even more with Melo when

Speaker 1 he's looking at me, he'll just stare into my eyes like for a long time. And I'm like, I see you. I know you see me. I know that you know what I'm saying, which is why it's even funnier when he won't listen. I'm like, what is going on? So yeah, all of that resonates around his personality for sure.

Speaker 2 Cool. I mean, let me ask him what else he wants to share about his personality for the greatest and highest good of this reading. Okay, so as I ask him that question, he's pulling me right to my belly, which feels very empty right now. So I'm just saying that what I'm hearing him say is like, you know, food is really good here. And uh yeah, I could use a little top-off every now and then. Uh, so you know, don't get so stingy on the food. And I'm hearing him say with a little bit of laughter because he's also like, but I also want to keep my,

Speaker 2 I want to make sure I'm staying trim and not like overeating or anything like that. But I do, and I do hear him say at the same time that he's very grateful for the food that you do give him because what I'm hearing him say is that his previous chapters in this life have not been so stable. And food has been scarce. Food has been used as um he cuss says a weapon, and to know that I'm in a safe place where I can have what I want when I want, you know, as you know, as mom thinks is healthy for me, he kind of rolls

Speaker 2 his eyes. But he just wants you to know how grateful I do hear, I'm so grateful. Like I'm gonna play with the food thing, but also know that I'm really grateful that I that you are providing me like the stability, is what I'm hearing him say.

Speaker 1 Does that make sense? It does. And you know, when I got him, he was like, they called him anorexic. He was so skinny and it made me so sad. And apparently he showed up at the shelter. Like, apparently, that's the other thing. I was so curious. I don't know what happened to Melo. And I just like with Rad, I was like, who would give up this amazing dog? But honestly, when I was in this horrible place, I and I thought I might have to give him up. I thought sometimes people might not have a choice, but he felt abandoned to me. He had fleas, his his

Speaker 1 um, his uh beautiful fur that's now so shiny was all dry, and now he's gained eight pounds. I just want to say, so I'm also like, excuse me, rat also put on a bunch of weight when I got him. So I'm like, I do. I make him amazing meals and I'm glad he likes them. But we want to both stay healthy and svelt. So we're gonna keep working on it. But I'm glad that he feels safe. Yes, he just opened his eyes a little bit, he's been sleeping. Um, so I'm glad that he feels safe and taken care of because I he is. I keep saying,

Speaker 1 Mellow, I gonna love you forever. You're safe. Can you stop screaming? And he's like, No, I'm gonna keep screaming. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2 Oh yeah. I just he's he's a talker. He's like, I'm a talker. He's like, Oh, well, like you know, you have a podcast, right? So it's like mom, like mom, like dog. It's like I'm a talker.

Speaker 1 No, honestly, that's what I realized. I'm like, wow, it's so funny. I just want to like put a mic in front of him. I just thought we could have a funny TikTok series of us both podcasting because he literally, I've never seen a dog talk and express himself. Like he sounds like a screaming child a lot of the time, which again, it's not like my favorite thing to hear in my head, but he really communicates more than any dog I've ever seen, which after having Rad, who was the quietest dog, who never even barked, I'm like, seriously? Yeah, like mellow does all the stuff that I

Speaker 1 didn't like about dogs, which is why I never got one. But now, of course, he's like the cutest, best dog. I get it. And oh my gosh, I want it to get a little easier. So I'm hoping maybe he'll share something to do.

Speaker 2 I'm sure he will. Yeah. Let me just ask one more time if there's anything else he wants to share about his mellow, about his personality for the greatest and highest good of this reading. And okay, so and I know all the things about your health and being able to walk and all that stuff. So just know that I know that. Um, because what he's trying to share with me is I'm just hearing him say, we're gonna go at our own pace, mom. And I'm hearing him say, I just to and what I'm hearing him say is the running and the needing to move fast was also

Speaker 2 in my previous chapters of this life, was also in response to what was going on and being able to protect myself. And so, yes, while I'm still young and can move, I want you to know that we can go at our own pace. And I'm learning as well with you that that is possible and that I I that I'm still safe and protected, and we're gonna have a blast, is what I'm hearing him say. But he's bringing me to his hips and also his thighs and just how strong they are and how um muscular they are, which they're what I'm hearing him say is they're getting

Speaker 2 bigger and they're getting stronger because of all the care you're giving him, as well as his other mom, which he talks about. Um, I just hear him say, but I don't, he doesn't want you to worry, is what I'm hearing him say, because he's like, we can go at our own pace and we're gonna be just fine.

Speaker 1 Oh, that really does make me feel better because you know, I've been looking up like with the anxiety that he has, like, what do Huskies? Because you know, huskies are a different breed than even cattle dogs and German shepherds, they at his age, they gotta move and he's so happy. I see him like gallop, and even more than rad, like this dog needs to run. So I've gotten long leashes and like I'm finding ways, but like on walks, I'm constantly I'm training him to also walk with me on a leash. And I gotta say, he's definitely getting better. He even now, when I go, wait, slow

Speaker 1 down, like he's doing it more. And sometimes he's not, but I'm almost I'm also like, he's like, he's like me. He's stubborn, he's like, I want to do what I want. So I've just really asked him to be patient with me because he did injure me at the beginning, not on purpose. That's when I was like, what do I do? Like, he's not trying to injure me, he's just a dog, he's trying to be a dog, and I'm like, ah, so thank you. We're gonna keep finding our pace, and thank you, Abby, because Abby takes him out and then they can go fast and they can

Speaker 1 go long. So I feel like when he sees her, he's obsessed with her. Like, oh my god. And I love that Mello has a family, right? Rad, it was like me and Rad, and I love that. But I like the more people who want to love and help, like, that's great.

Speaker 2 Yeah. All right, Mello. Anything else you want? He's like, no, I want to talk about her, as does Rad. All right. Um, let's see. I'm just gonna see if how they want me to do this. Okay, Rad wants to go first. All right, so we're gonna ask the both of them together. Rad is still here on my right, but he's coming up a little bit more to the to the towards the camera and the microphone. And then Mello's gonna stay over here on my left. Still a little forward, but Rad's a little bit more in front. So I'm just asking Rad and Mello, but Rad, you

Speaker 2 I know you're gonna answer. Um, what do we need to know about Svet for the high for the greatest and highest good of this reading? Is it okay if I call you Svet? I have been this whole time. Okay, okay. All right. What do oh they want me to call you mom? They're like, stop that. Call her mom. Okay, what do we need to know about mom for the greatest and highest good of this reading? And Rad actually has me take a really big deep breath. And that's for you. So if you wouldn't mind taking a good big deep breath, that would be great. Yeah. And

Speaker 2 I'm oh, so this is what he says about you. And he gets really mellow. He loves the he is this was not a coincidence that Mellow's name is mellow because he love Rad loves to play with the name and the word mellow, right? I knew it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I knew it when I saw Mellow's name. I'm telling you, I was like, oh my God. Really? I it was a month after he. I was like, this is not this can't be the time, but I was like, mellow, like I have to meet mellow.

Speaker 2 So yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 Sorry, didn't we? That's okay.

Speaker 2 No, no, it's fine. So Rad just kind of he gets like mellow, like I can feel him kind of squish a little bit over to my left. So he's kind of leaning into mellow, even when he's looking at you, and they're both looking at you with these same type of soft eyes that are full of love. And I'm hearing him say about you, you, he's like, he can't, he's like, it's hard to even get the words out. He's like, you, mom, are so smart, and you care about so many people. So many people. And to some degree, he's like, We're working on it. I hear him

Speaker 2 say, but you, and you did talk about this a little bit too, but he's like, you just give and you keep giving and you keep giving and you keep giving and you keep giving and then you keep giving. And I see he's showing me, and I don't know if you actually do this, but I see you like cooking for other people, and I see you like bringing pies over, is what he shows me. And I see you like, oh no, I'll take care of that. And that's when he says, like, when I was in body, it was very much about all of that, and he she

Speaker 2 did all that for me too. How much can I do? How much can I, where can I be needed? To the point he said where you know we weren't sleeping because she was taking such good care of me and sacrificing all these things for me. Um, what I'm hearing him say, and this is where he now he's kind of handing the mic over to Mello, and he says, and what Mello says is you he sees the same thing because how much you have actually what I'm hearing Mellow say is you've brought me back to life, and how much you have invested in bringing me back to

Speaker 2 life, and how much you haven't given up. And what I'm and what Mellow is saying is like there's there's something that we are going to explore together. There's another part of your like he shows me you going down a path and it's straight, and then all of a sudden there's something that moves over here to the right and kind of opens up a little bit more. And Rad or well, Rad and Mellow are saying, and it's this, we need to start to move towards this. And it feels like it's much more of there's something about more being in tune, more like intuitiveness, which I know you

Speaker 2 have, and there's something more that's coming forward that Mellow with Rad is like this anchoring guide that Mellow wants to kind of come alongside and move you more towards this. Oops, I just hit my mic, more towards this right path that is opening up even more in an effort, first of all, to really help yourself. Wow. Okay, sorry, this is Mellow now talking. And they're both, they're like really kind of combined as like um almost like if you intertwine your fingers, this is how combined they are. There's something more about in an effort of making yourself whole. It's not so much healing, they're saying, but it's

Speaker 2 like creating this more wholeness around you. There's something in that that you just in being that begins to share with other people how to do it to, which brings about a whole level of wholeness slash healing for this whole entire country and he and um culture, is what, but it starts with really starts with you and these two amazing dogs that really want to help you do that. Um, but what they're saying is that we first have to work on this, just as you were talking about earlier. Mello's still enforcing this as Rad's kind of standing by. We still have to make sure that we're putting

Speaker 2 ourselves first and that this becomes a default behavior instead of a practice. It's always going to be a practice, but he's saying this becomes that, you know, my my wellness comes first, and then I can give more. Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 1 All of that honestly really resonates because one thing that Rad said again in the last time I connected with him through the medium, which was so interesting. He said, You're not like getting new wisdom or powers now. This time is about you actually reconnecting to what's always been in you that now you're using. And I've always felt that the more I lived, I would um embody more of those witchy psychic intuitive because I've had them my whole life, and I have. I've tapped into them in 222 right now. I'm telling you. I have never been more present, and I think had I not I feel like

Speaker 1 Rad Together must have had a soul contract with me where we were like, we are gonna completely break your legs at some point because I wasn't gonna slow down. Which feels again like So painful, but because that happened, I am I've been in this solitary state, and the more I'm in my own energy, I feel so much better. Like I've lost friends. I had so much loss, and now I'm like, I feel like I have more faith, more gratitude, more connection. So that really resonates. I feel like I'm really, it's like all the things. Oh, there's a hummingbird right now. Again, Rad, are you coming to

Speaker 1 me through the birds or not? That's been such a story. I feel like Radagast, you know, his name, he was the wizard of the birds, and I didn't connect it till he passed. And I was like, Radagast was this super chill, mellow wizard. I didn't know anything about Lord of the Rings. And when I adopted Rad, they said, Oh, we have this dog named Radagast. And I was like, huh? And then they said Rad. And I just started Rad Hats. And I was like, whoa, I gotta meet Rad. But when I looked more into Radagast's history, it was like it so felt connected to Rad. And

Speaker 1 then I realized, birds, I just had this moment where this bird kept coming. And I was like, is that you? Like, so it was again this another, he just another hummingbird just came now. Sorry, I just totally got distracted. But the point is, yes, that all resonates. I feel like my path as a coach, even, and I work with like high-level business executives, but I am in essence a spiritual teacher, as I think all coaches really are. You know, like the essence of that. So yes. Yes. Thank you. You're welcome.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Um, I'm seeing if there's anything else they want to share. What I'm hearing them both say is you have, and I can feel it in, and I don't know if you how your belly is feeling right now, but right now for me, they're sharing that you are just such a light for so many different beings, people. So when I say people, I usually mean like all types of species, but you're such a light. And that's the part that they want to have uh like that's like the next chapter is how do we get that light to shine even more brightly? And even for you to

Speaker 2 kind of turn the wattage up in like your own belief. Like, I believe, and I know like you're a very strong person, so it's like, how do I believe in this even more? You know, this this being that I am, so that I can help other people. But that's that was their last little bit about you that they wanted to share. How does that does that make sense? I mean, my name means the light, so yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, Svetlana in Russian, Sviet is light. And what's always felt so profound is again, I spent my 20s as this happiness researcher. I was always searching deeply for light and joy, and then what happened? I got like clinically depressed and my life fell apart. That's when I discovered that actually I got so much more intrigued with the darkness. And I always said, I actually think that I'm here to not just shine light, but actually shine light on the importance of walking through darkness with grace and compassion. So each time I've gone into these, I have a friend, Phoenix, who's a deeply, she's like a spiritual mentor.

Speaker 1 And for the fourth time I was going into this dark night of the soul, she goes, You going in again? And I was like, I guess. But every time I like frankly had the courage now, I feel like to go into that darkness, I've discovered so much that has made my light, I think, more authentically bright. That's why I'm very uh careful now who I'm around, because I think around the right energy, I feel like I can be bright and big, and it's like appreciated. Frankly, that's why this is such a good medium for me. Because I think around a lot of people I realize this

Speaker 1 time, I haven't really felt like I could really be myself. I felt often in my life people said you're too loud or you're too big, and yet they were like, But you're such a great speaker. So I'm like, so I'm confused. You want me to talk, but I'm saying too much, but you like what I say, but it's too loud. So frankly, that's why I loved Rad and love Mello. It's easy to be around them in a way. I can talk to them all the time. I can talk to this microphone, but I'd like to have I'd like to call in, and I feel like I'm

Speaker 1 calling in the the at least personal relationships where people really do appreciate the continuum of me. Because I am both very light and very dark, but I like that. I embrace, I mean, Rad's just put me through a lot of darkness, let's be real. Yeah, and the tunnel always ends in light. I always say that, and then it's like, oh, yep, here we go again.

Speaker 2 So yeah, yeah. Oh, so quick like here's some signs of synchronicity too, just for everybody. So Lucas's, Lucas also means giver of light or bringer of light, one of the two, but there's a light element in Lucas in what his name means too. And hummingbirds in indigenous medicine, North American indigenous peoples, um, animal medicine, um, means joy. Stands for joy. And there's a whole thing there. I love working with wild animals and our own like animal guide family. And so that would be, yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm telling you, they used to come before, but now the hummingbirds have been, they come all the time. And not only do they come, but they stay. Like they come to the balcony and then they're just like hanging out. And I'm just like, hey. And again, I'm masterfully listening. I'm paying attention. Do I see a hummingbird? Do I see a crow? Because they're all different messages. There were so many crows when Rad was passing. And I know that's more of a symbol, I think, of like death. And uh I don't know. To me, it it felt I kept pulling the death card when I pulled

Speaker 1 my tarot, and I wasn't surprised because death doesn't only only mean physical death. I was going through this, has been a massive death, and now every single card, Julie, I'm not even kidding, that I've pulled in the last month has been ask body. Body. It's I mean, like you can't make this stuff up. So uh yes, uh Ratamello, I am listening. Okay. I am I am listening. I'm just still confused.

Speaker 3 So uh that's that's kind of where I'm at.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And just real quick, Crow, I just looked it up, is law. And usually to me, it means like natural law or you know, allowing, oh, allowing the balance too. The balance, you know, homeostasis is a law, right? If you will, the natural law. So there's something in that. And that's just a real quick, just FYI. So interesting. Yeah. What questions do you have for either one of them? Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it's clear that I was gonna say, did Rad send Mellow? I feel like we kind of answered that one. It seems like they are working together. Yeah. I I am curious though, what how does that work? Because I noticed that Mello was posted online to be adopted. I didn't notice this till later, but they literally posted him the day Rad passed. Obviously, I didn't see it at the time because I wasn't looking for dogs to adopt the day Rad passed. I was just trying to survive something I had no, like I had no idea what was happening. That morning I got up and

Speaker 1 I lost consciousness three times. I kept falling over. I didn't know what was going on. I really feel like my body could feel him going before I could. So that whole whirlwind was so intense that I think the first thing I really want to make sure is like I just wanted to also say I'm sorry. I felt I felt so bad because I was already injured. Like when Raddy passed that whole last week, we couldn't sleep, and I was so tired and I was so stressed, and I yelled at him because he barked, which like I didn't know why he was barking. I was so confused,

Speaker 1 and I feel really bad that I yelled at him, and I feel really bad that we couldn't like we had like one really nice walk that week, but I was it couldn't be like a longer one, and then I literally took him out for a walk, and then that's when he started to have a seizure. And then so I just want to say I feel really bad, but I didn't do it on purpose, so hopefully he's not up.

Speaker 2 I know he's not upset, but I just yeah, he's like he when you said I feel really bad, and he wanted to jump in and go for what? Like he's kind of like for what? Like we had a wonderful like life together, we're still working together, you know I'm around. So he's he's asking to have you let that go. Um because he's like that. I like he's just sitting here, like kind of throwing his hands up, going, Yeah, no, there's nothing to feel bad for at all. Don't keep that. That's not yours to own and hold on to, is what I'm hearing him say.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I have, and I've worked through that, but I also want to just normalize that. Like it's no, it's you know, we always whenever I felt that, I've like, I really, really I know that I did literally everything in my human power to take care of rat. I actually feel like one of the lessons is like you don't have to do that again. Like I wanna, I never traveled, I didn't really go out, I never left him. And I want to be able to have a life and have mellow, right? So that's the other thing. I think first of all, and I get to ask

Speaker 1 either one of them or one at a time. Are they I can ask both of them questions? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Okay, yeah. So let's see. First of all, I want to know am I making up this story about the birds, or is Rat actually like, how is he sending me signs? Am I um like, am I just making that up because I like that story? I don't know. I want him to confirm the bird thing.

Speaker 2 I mean, that's silly. No, it's not silly at all. No, that's actually one of the most popular questions that I'll get when an animal has passed. What signs are they sending? So, and yes, you can ask them, like you were talking earlier. You can ask them to send you whatever sign, just so you know. Some of us require a little more belief, and that's fine. It took me a long time too. So when I ask Rad, are those birds from you? He says yes, and they are some are for you from him. When he says you are specifically in a moment, you have there's two extremes.

Speaker 2 When you're like extreme, like, oh, I can't, I can't, a bird appears. And when you're in this extreme state of like, woohoo, he's like, Yes, that's it, and he sends a bird. So he'll do confirmation and he'll also lift you up. There are other birds that appear like in the middle of that spectrum, because he says, and this I've seen this too and experienced it myself. The more open we are, the more open we become. Which then the more open we are, then the more open we become. So when we start to see the signs, I mean, we may think we're crazy because it's like, oh

Speaker 2 my God, that's a sign, that's a sign, that's a sign. Yes. And yes, all of it. So I'm hearing him say that not only is he sending the birds, but the birds that show up that you notice that might be in your more like what he says, copacetic state, like you know, just regular, just kind of getting through kind of stuff, and you're not having those false beliefs and you're not having those extreme joys. Those are little messages for you from the universe that he's a part of to say, and right here, look here. Oop, yep, look at that. Just little teeny tidbits just to keep

Speaker 2 you on your path.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That makes sense. Because I'm I think I'm also I've thought, were they always there? But I just wasn't paying attention. Like, really, because I've been so injured now, when I like with Rad, I noticed at some point, and by the way, thank you, Rad, for being so patient. I've remembered all these moments now where also like it was a joke, but Rad was so slow that on walks he would just stop. And I was like, Come on, Rad! Now I'm like, Mello, could you please stop instead of put pulling so much? It's like so funny how, in some ways, they're exactly the same. Like they both

Speaker 1 like to do what I call chill hard. Like right now, he's just been chilling hard, and I love it. Like me and Rad, we just did nothing. I remember one of the sweetest moments. He would at the end, something changed. He would go up, he was excited to go on a walk, but then he would just sit in the driveway. Like he didn't want to go anywhere. And I was like, come on. And then at some point, I just sat down on the ground with him and I was like, where am I going? Like, why am I rushing? And that's where everything that's happened now. I

Speaker 1 guess it's really what I want to confirm is am I correct to see that this was, I call this like the ultimate slowdown? I feel like, did we really have this agreement? Because if we did, he has kept it with such ruthless impeccability that I'm like, wow, what a massive, almost like sacrifice. I don't know. Like, I feel like, didn't he want to live longer? Like 10 and a half feels so young for a dog in a way. Like I know he was older, but I feel like Rad was like, why didn't you want to live till 20? Like if you were having fun, right? Like,

Speaker 1 I guess I just want to understand that decision a little more. And I respect it because it happened. But like, I don't know, I've just been curious about that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, and usually, you know, when you talk, they start answering. So I just start to jump. Sometimes I rephrase the questions, but this one he's got lots of answers. So, first of all, his soul contract with you was to break you open. So that's why the time and in an effort, and here's what I'm hearing him say, it's, you know, from an astrological perspective, he's reminding me that Pluto's going into Aquarius, right, here soon. So, which we're hoping starts to bring about some deep change that's for everyone, right? In a good way, that we get to better places here. And so his time was of

Speaker 2 the essence, is what I'm hearing him say. Time for us was of the essence, and I had to work as fast and as hard as I could. I had to first make sure that she embraced the love of a dog and knew what it meant because she he's like, I had this huge thing to do, and I knew reinforcements were coming because this was, you know, destined, if you will. So he's like, so I had to get in there, I had to have her fall in love with me, I had to beat her everything so that she knew the power of what a dog, which by

Speaker 2 the way is God spells backwards for those of you that, but it's like for that what dogs can do. I had to get in there, get her loved in me, and here we go. And then I had to pass so that it would break her open because he's bringing me back to that path that's off to the right. We have to get moving. We time is of the essence. Time is of the essence, is what I'm hearing him say. And I hear him say, had I not, had you fallen in love with me as much as you did, and which would not have broken your heart

Speaker 2 as much as it did, and broken your body as much as it did, this next chapter would have been so much harder. And so you've done what he says, and this is why he says too, he was so proud of you when he first started talking today, because you have done, you've taken this for the lesson and the opportunity that it is, as much as it sucks, and you've not let it go to waste at all. Like, I can feel this like sense of like being pulled forward from like my heart chakra, like, oh, gotta go, gotta go, kind of thing. And that's what he's saying

Speaker 2 is why all of that type of stuff happened. And you listened to him when he was starting to, when he was doing the slowing down, and you were hearing, because I remember those messages too from the beginning of slowing down and really trying to get some breath in there, because you also needed that breath to be able to, as you broke open, all the things. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, if someone's watching the video, they see I'm just like bawling quietly. But I mean, here's what I want to say. I want to say this, and I know this is true because I know me, because I've been in my head my whole life. I've known my whole life that I wanted to need it to slow down. That was the biggest feedback anyone ever gave me. That I was always great at stuff. My biggest problem was I was doing it too fast, which caused me literally, I would bump into things. It caused me physical pain. I would drop things, I would mess things up.

Speaker 1 So I wanted to slow down, but my natural pace was so fast, naturally. So I knew Rad was teaching me that. And also, it just so makes sense what he did because I woke up one day and I really didn't like dogs. I mean, this is why this is like I felt so bad in California because everyone loves dogs, and I felt like one of these really bad people. I was like, it's not that I didn't like them, I just didn't like them, right? And I kept even joking that I'm not a dog person, I'm a rad person. If I hadn't had rad as my first

Speaker 1 dog, I don't think I could have ever had Mello or any dog because Rad was so easy to love. From the first day, I was like, what am I gonna do? And it was just easy. He had amazing manners, he was trained. We just went out, and it was like literally the easiest relationship. And I keep thinking it had to be that way because now he really showed me that dogs are like, I think dogs are truly like dog backwards god. Like, that is not a coincidence either. They are just the most incredible beings, and I'm so grateful that Rad did what he did and that

Speaker 1 I followed that weird thought on that Sunday to turn on the TV, see the movie dog, watch the movie dog, cry my eyes out, and call a shelter. Like that made no sense for me, right? It wasn't like I was a dog person who always wanted a dog. I was a person who people told for 20 years, you're single, dogs are great. And I was like, I don't want a dog. They shed, they bark, they do all the things Mello does, and I just am obsessed with him still, but it's all because of Rad. So uh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 Well did that answer all your that question?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that definitely answered that question. I guess the other question I want to know is so around mellow, right? If they're working together, and maybe this is more of a question for mellow, so maybe go to mellow. So mellow, I was told that Mello was mellow. Okay, now I don't think they lied to me. I think the people who, by the way, shout out to the foster family who not only fostered Mello, but who fostered him even after I adopted him for a few more weeks because I couldn't walk. They kept him. I feel like so many people conspired to help this happen. So thank you

Speaker 1 so much to. I can't even remember, I'm so overwhelmed with emotion, but if you're listening to this, you know who you are. Um, they told me that Mellow, like, yeah, when because I asked. I needed to ask questions. I wanted to make sure I could handle a dog. And I saw his name was Mellow. The description of him was that he's super mellow, and yet then I bring him home, and like even the first day in the car, we pulled over and he was freaking out. And I mean screaming and crying, and I couldn't tell. Are you anxious? Are you excited? And it's like been so

Speaker 1 intense. I had a panic attack. I think I messaged you then and I was like, Julie, I don't know what to do. I literally almost crashed my car. I wasn't used to like that type of screaming, and I'm barely moving, right? I'm injured. So, like the overwhelm was insane. Now I've gotten better because I've realized that I know this is somehow helping me with the patience and with the reactivity, but I just want to know what is happening. Like, is he scared? Is he anxious? Like, what is he trying to tell me? Because I want to help. Um, and I need some help. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Uh so yeah, okay. So if so, when you were talking and sharing all of that, um, and you mentioned when you picked him up and you got him in the car and he freaked out. There up until that point, he was sharing um just being able to get into the house, into your life, and being able to finally show his personality, um, which he probably will come back to, but really starting to like letting all these layers of all of this um what happened to him in the earlier chapters, if you will, start to shed. And so then that's why you're starting to see more of

Speaker 2 like the, you know, needing to run and more of the engaging behaviors he wants me to call them. However, when you were talking and continuing on and then saying that, you know, he got in the car and then he freaked out to the point where you were like, oh my God, I'm gonna crash my car. And I do remember you texting me, there's a couple things that he wants me to share. First of all, we're there's the dog, there's the dog, just like there's the person, right? There's the dog. And then there's the higher level. And I'm typically speaking to the higher level, even when I

Speaker 2 do intuitive coaching, I'm talking to the higher self, right? So with him in that moment when he got in the car, the overwhelm of, he brought it me right down overwhelmed because you were overwhelmed. The overwhelm of leaving his foster family where he did feel safe and secure. And then, okay, wait a minute. There's just like this, there's like this tunnel, if you will, like you said earlier, there's like this tunnel. He's moving through. He's like, oh my God, what's happening? Is this the thing? Is this the thing? Is this the thing? And it's it was overwhelming. Now at the same time, animals will do a

Speaker 2 couple of different things to get our attention. They were, they will mirror our behavior and they will model our behavior. So if they want you to do something to change, they'll do something to model what it should be for you. And if you're doing something that they think, oh, maybe you shouldn't be doing that anymore, they're mirror that behavior at you, and you're like, wait a minute, what's that kind of thing? So in your overwhelm, he was overwhelmed. And it's almost like one begat the other, and it became a bit of a cycle for a while in an effort to also mirror you to say, it's

Speaker 2 okay, we're gonna get back to mellow. We're gonna get back to mellow, we're gonna get back to mellow. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 It makes sense, and I want to say this you you kind of said something like that to me, and I remember I was so resistant to it. Yeah, I remember because I was like, What are you? No, I was like, Julie, I'm sitting quietly, I'm not anxious. And I was like, you know what? Whenever I now feel resistance, I just sit with it. And when I really sat with it, I thought, yeah, my anxiety is in my mind. I don't express it that way anymore. I used to be someone who like screamed. I just grew up with a lot of screaming, and that's actually something I

Speaker 1 really worked on, so it really triggers me. That's why this was so triggering. Oh, yeah. Because I'm sitting there and I'm like, I'm calm. But of course, I had my mind is so wild. I mean, between the ADHD and the grief and the pain and the new dog. It's like, so then when I started looking at it like that, I thought, okay, so if he's mirroring my own cacophony of stuff that is actually a blend of anxiety and excitement, weirdly enough. Um, what is the opportunity? And then again, I thought, well, look, I'm pissed that he's so reactive. Because again, it wasn't just when he got

Speaker 1 in my car, it's still anytime we pull over anywhere, he is screaming. It's become funny because now I feel like he's so excited. Like I went, I took him to the Presidio, which is like the most beautiful part of San Francisco. And as we're even driving now, his head's out the window, and this is what he sounds like. Ooh! And I'm oh and I'm like, wow, Melo is literally just singing to the whole world, which is also, I was embarrassed. It sounded like he was being like murdered, like he was screaming. People would look and they'd be like, oh, that's cute. And I'm like, oh, is

Speaker 1 it? I had to get earplugs. So now it's become a little funny, but still I'm like, Melo, what is it? Is it just excitement? I don't know where he came from. They said he ran away. I'm almost like, what happened to you, buddy? Like, he doesn't seem you don't seem traumatized. He's so friendly. He loves everybody. Yeah. Like he literally is the friendliest. Even Rad. Rad was a little growly sometimes. Melo, every dog, every person, he's just like, I love you. I love you. I want to play. And I'm like, hey, Mello, we can't be friendly with everybody. Like, we need to. So it's just so

Speaker 1 interesting in some ways. He's just so easy, right? Because I'm not worried about him. Except for with other German Shepherds, he's been a little weird. That's also interesting because he's a bit shepherd. But anyway, yeah. So let me pause there because I feel like I just said a lot, but I still don't understand the screaming. Like, what does he need? Because I want to help him. Like, I need to leave the house. He'll stand there, he'll claw at the door. I mean, he's legitimately crying. He walks around anxious because I have a camera. And I just feel like, poor boy. Like, did someone abandon him? He

Speaker 1 seems genuinely scared that I'm like not gonna come back. And I keep telling him, Mello, I'm coming back forever. Like, I got you. Can you like stop yelling in my ear, please? It hurts.

Speaker 2 There's so much he's got to say about all of that. Um, all right, so wait, I'm just gonna break down the question about leaving. Okay, just so I don't forget because he wants me to come back. So just know there's something what I'm hearing him say about he wants to call it talking. You might say screaming. He likes to call it talking, of course. And of course, he's a husky, so he's gonna talk because they always have so much to say. Um, fair enough. Yeah, so he is going to talk, which is why you needed a husky because of the talking in an effort for you

Speaker 2 to feel. I mean, I know you feel comfortable talking, and yet you're still cognizant of am I talking too much? Mellow, don't go over, not everybody wants to see you. And he's trying to show you this becomes unbridled. And I'm pointing to my throat chakra, this becomes unbridled with unadulterated joy, which is also why you keep seeing the hummingbirds, because you're trying to, the universe is trying to scream to you, this, and I'm pointing to my throat again, like this needs to get unleashed, unfettered. Here we go. We got to talk about the joy. And it not, and here's the other thing is like when you

Speaker 2 said I'm a little embarrassed, when he people people are like, Oh, that's so cute, and you're like, You think so? In that embarrassment is an opportunity for you to understand what's going on with you with a false belief about why do I need to feel like we have to be quiet or we have to hold ourselves back, or what is it? So there's he's saying, So see, there's some little, there's some little juicy bits, he has to call it, in there for us about that, too. So, does that make sense so far? And then I'm gonna get to the when you leave part.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, I'm just I'm just smiling because I always joke with my mom and hi mom, I love you. I know you're gonna listen to this. Is that she said something when I was younger that really screwed me up? She didn't mean to, but she said something to me from from her love. And now I'm like, wow, I just I'm doing this to Melo. She goes, be yourself, but like be a be like 80% less yourself or something ridiculous because I was so loud and I was like, oh, that hurts. And I'm kind of I was doing the same thing. I'm like, Mello, like, yell,

Speaker 1 but can you not be so loud? But now I gotta say, recently, once I got my, because it actually just physically hurt me. I was like, baby Mello, scream, but just don't do it right in my ear. You're gonna like burst my eardrum. But now that I get my plugs, I know when we start making the loop, I put him in, and then as he screams, I scream too. I'm like, yeah, tell everyone you're excited. Ooh, you got feelings. I go, you have feelings. So now it's like really cute, but still, when I leave him, he seems really sad and scared. That's where I like, I

Speaker 1 don't, I wish I could help him with that, but I don't know what that's about. So is that different? Like, what's up there?

Speaker 2 It's a little bit different. It's kind of tied, but it's a little bit different. And he's reminding me of my dog Lucas. So my dog Lucas is also part husky, and we can't leave him alone either. Um, very so we and we don't, and it started in a different way. But what I'm and what Lucas has always said is like we need to break down this barrier of where dogs can and cannot go. We have this really weird society that's like, you know, in France you can take them everywhere. Why can't we do stuff like that here? So there's that aspect of it. But that's really

Speaker 2 like so just put that. Well, like he's saying, like Melo's saying that too. Like, why can't I go? Like, really, I'm a good boy. I can I can handle myself. Like, people need to see this, is what I'm hearing him say. Um and at the same time, it's he's saying when you leave, he's like, but wait, we have stuff to do, but wait, like, don't don't you want me with you? Don't you just like emotional support dog? Can't we find some kind of role? Like, that's what I'm hearing him say. Because what I'm also hearing him say is like he takes his work with you very

Speaker 2 seriously. Like he may be silly when he stretches out and puts the arm up and all that stuff in an effort to keep the vibration high, if you will. And at the same time, for him, the work is very serious. So when you leave, he's just like, wait a minute, how come I can't go with you? And hey, don't forget about me. But not like it may feel needy, but it's not necessarily in a needy way. He just wants you to know that, okay, all right, fine, I'm here, I'm gonna keep everything going. Like, that's like don't worry, uh don't forget about, but I got it,

Speaker 2 I'm taking care of everything. Um, and I do feel like any aspects, what he's saying to me is like any aspects of me feeling a little nervous that she's leaving, because you are only three months in, he's saying that'll slowly dissipate because I'll we'll get we're gonna find our rhythm that's gonna dissipate a little bit. Um, and there's as as well as a little bit more trust, as well as a little bit more of like how are we gonna move our work together forward? Because he has some role in this moving to the right. You mentioned the podcast or something with him, like showing you guys

Speaker 2 talking, physically talking back and forth, whatever that may be. Um, so he just says that. The other thing is that he says, when you go to leave him, he just needs you to make sure you're grounded before you walk out the door. So you what I'm hearing him say is like sometimes you've left and it's like, okay, gotta go, we're gonna get through this. And there's this, you're like, we're just gonna power through. We're just gonna, I gotta go, like you're gonna have to deal with this, mellow, and you're, you know, but as you do that, you're not typically grounded because the anxiety or the anxiousness

Speaker 2 or the there's fear, there's some type of swirling that I can feel right at the solar plexus for you, and he and you go, which can make it worse. Whereas he's saying, if you, if we just do a little morning practice or whatever it is, you go typically, and we just do a little grounding. I love you, you love me, I'll be back. This is good. I feel really like this is you talking, Spet. Like I'm really grounded. This is my home, and I'm gonna, we're all gonna be back soon. And try that practice because it's about like making sure you're kind of locked in grounded

Speaker 2 wise before you walk out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I gotta say, I'm getting better at that. I think the reason I felt so overwhelmed at the beginning because he was so overwhelmed, and then I was worried that he was gonna be overwhelmed, and then I'd leave and look at the camera a million times, and I'm like, okay, just if you leave, leave. So now I've been like, but he's funny, he got smart. At first, I was like, okay, if I give him one of his favorite treats, he'll get a little distracted and I'll quietly walk out. But then he started paying attention. So now when I give him one of those treats, he knows

Speaker 1 he won't take it. He'll still also he follows me everywhere. I mean, to the point where I've also gotten really annoyed and I've like, Mello, because Rad used to follow me, but not like this. Melo will literally follow me into the bathroom and just sit underneath me when I'm on the toilet. And if I don't let him, he will somehow, he's like a Houdini. He opens doors. Like I've closed the door, and I'm like, how did you do that? It's so, it's kind of impressive, actually. I'm like equally impressed and like, yo, give me some space. So that's the other thing. It's like the other day

Speaker 1 I did have a realization of like one day when Mello's not here, I'm gonna remember how he used to literally always follow me, and that's gonna be what I like miss. So I wanna appreciate it, but it is a little annoying, honestly, because I said after Rad, I want some space. Like again, the cosmic joke. I said, Okay, I'm gonna take time, I'm gonna be in my own energy. And now I have this incredible being. I'm looking at him right now and I just want to squeeze him, and he is literally attached to me. He like, I'll I'll step on him sometimes, which is actually dangerous

Speaker 1 for me with my injuries. So I'm kind of like, what's that all about? Because you know, they say dogs when they follow you around, it means they love you. But to me, I'm like, is that what it means? Or are you still a little anxious? Or anyway, I get it. I'm staying calm more when I notice that feeling of like, ah, I literally pause and I'm like, he reminds me of the way I was in my relationships when I was younger. Hi, do you want to hang out with me all the time? Hi, I love you. Hi, hi, hi, hi. And I'm like, oh yeah, maybe

Speaker 1 uh maybe that was off-putting to people. So I'm definitely like, I'm getting the mirroring, and I do wish that he knew that like I'm here, I'm not going anywhere, and I'm trying. So, like, if he has any thoughts about like what could help me and him, or if Rad, I thought, because Rad to me is still like the stoic, wise, I almost feel like Melo will be like Rad when he's older. Because again, he's a cattle dog, which I didn't see in him. And when I realized that, I was like crying too. I'm like, he is the same breed as Rad. So they have a lot

Speaker 1 in common. He's just, I don't know. I always thought, what was Rad like as a young dog? Because I thought maybe if I had gotten Rad when he was four, I couldn't have handled him. Maybe Rad was like Mello and Melo will be like Rad. Like again, it's like it's so fascinating.

Speaker 2 Yes, I know. We can go down all the rabbit holes and everything too. I find um, okay. So I'm just gonna ask you Rad, what do you need to know about the um always being near you behavior? Okay, yes. So there's two things going on again, like this 3D, 5D is what I call it. So from a dog perspective, right? His own physical perspective, he's still settling in and still, he's just still settling in and trying to get used to how everything kind of flows and works and all that stuff. Even though he says our life isn't overcomplicated, it's not like there's a million and one

Speaker 2 things going on, he's still getting settled and learning to turn and leaning back into that mellow life that he had in the foster home, if that makes sense so far.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 2 And then what I'm hearing him say as far as the um the 5D, and I'm just coming back to the question, what do we need to know for the greatest and highest good about why you um why you're walking around with her all the time? So, from an energetic or 5D perspective, there's also a settling for you because you've had loss, and now there's this new being in the home, and so it hasn't completely settled for you either. And so he's actually trying to co-regulate with you and help you, and really what he's really more he's more worried about you, actually, because he's like, I'll take

Speaker 2 care of myself, but he's like, We're just trying to find our new way of being and kind of really get settled into it so that it becomes like the second nature, and we don't even think about it anymore. So whenever he's so when you move, he's what he says is there's still, even if you're not aware of it, there's still some residual, what I can feel like some, it's almost like either your aura or and I don't know anything about auras, but like something here, it's just still kind of vibrating at a level that he picks up on that. He's like, I just need to be

Speaker 2 there so I can provide calm. I just need to be there so I can bring her back. I just need to be there so I can help her ground. So he's gonna stay with you, and as you continue to work with him through all of this, and you'll slowly start to notice that then you can go to the bathroom and he'll stay in the bedroom. Or, you know, you'll move someplace and he'll be, he can still watch you and see you, but he won't have to always change his position for you, if that makes sense. But this, there's still we don't give ourselves enough credit as

Speaker 2 to how much it takes to settle down from anything, right? Because then we've got another wave of stuff happening, you know, and that's what that's what's happened. They're way more in tune. He's very sensitive, he's way more in tune than. Oh, I feel it.

Speaker 1 I know, and it was so funny because now he is doing that, and it and it was hilarious because I I got really mad at him the other night, and I even I I I said I said sorry because I was like, screw you, Mellow, because I was calling him because I wanted him to come to sleep, and he wouldn't come. He was like, I'm asleep out here, and I was like, Oh yeah. I got really mad, and then I'm like, Oh, it actually felt nice. I had some space because also he's not sleeping in my bed with me because I couldn't sleep with Rad slept

Speaker 1 with me. And because Mellow, Mello's way bigger than Rad. So now we have this sweet little routine where he has his own little bed next to me and he'll sleep. Anytime I wake up in the middle of the night to pee, to follow me, I'm like, wow, buddy, this is incredible. Like as soon as I move, and now the the less I react to it, actually, it is kind of nice. I've always been a reactive person. So actually, that's my own training is I'm like, he can just be there. I have this little gate. Funny enough, I I ordered because I wanted to try to block

Speaker 1 the living room because he was having accidents, and I was also so upset. Rad never had accidents, but also I couldn't walk Mellow as much. So that was tough. I almost felt bad for him. And I got this little gate, but then it didn't quite work. And I tried to return it, and Amazon was like, keep it, we'll give you your money back. And Mello was really frustrating me because when I was in the kitchen trying to make food, he would like trip me. So that gate fit perfectly. So that now in the kitchen I'll just put a little gate and now he'll just stand at

Speaker 1 the gate or just lay there calmly. Because it's like he really does want to be with me, and it's so sweet because it's actually nice. I always said, I want to hang out with someone, but I want them to like leave me alone. So I like know they're there, but like I don't need to talk to them the whole time. And that is literally exactly what Mello is doing. And then when we wake up in the morning, I'm like, come snuggle, and he'll jump off. And like Rad was not a snuggler, which was so funny. This guy, oh my god, he's like everybody snuggle and let's

Speaker 1 just pet me. So it is very sweet that I mean, I feel that I I do feel he's he's teaching me, and I hope that if there is that anxiety that he'll realize with time that like he I am not giving him away. At this point, I feel like we just survived the gauntlet, yeah, and I can't imagine what like he is safe. And I'm just gonna keep telling him because I'm telling you, when I look at him, I know, I know he's with me. Like he is so sharp and smart, and like I sense it. I feel like he could even become one of those,

Speaker 1 like, I want to do some hardcore training with him because he still doesn't know a ton of commands. I think no one just I don't think anyone worked with him. So as I get on my feet, is that something he wants to do? Maybe that's my last question because I kind of realize, wow, we you and I can talk for forever. I know. And also 303, I see that too. Hey, um like, does he I want to really train him more because I want to let him off the leash? Like, I want to trust though that he won't run off because that's really stressful. So, like,

Speaker 1 what do I gotta do so that he actually does listen to me when we're out and about? Because right now, I'm telling you, when we're outside, he's just like, I am not interested really in you. He's starting to come back more, yeah, but it feels like he's just like in his own universe, and that scares me as a human, just here on earth with a dog who can run off into the road, you know? Yeah. So yeah.

Speaker 2 Um, okay. So your question is, does he want more training or what does he want to do? Like from an activity level kind of thing?

Speaker 1 I think yes. Around like, is he getting enough exercise right now? And also, is he excited to do more training? Slash, what do I gotta do to get to the point with him where like I can let him off and he can run around and I know he's not gonna do what he did at the beach that time, where some kind woman had to run off after him, and I was just standing there, like, okay, well, here goes that trust experiment. It felt horrible. I can't chase him even. Yeah, I can barely walk, you know. So yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, so on the training perspective, um, I'm hearing him say, I would very much like to do obedience training or some type of like canine good citizen type of stuff. And more importantly, oh, I see why. More importantly, for you also to just feel a little bit more grounded and a little bit more confident in everything that you do. And as well, and the reason why he said canine good citizen, which I haven't thought of in years, is then he can go more places and be that really good role model and good boy for others, so that some of those barriers that he was talking about

Speaker 2 earlier about why can't dogs go everywhere, we can start to break those down. So that's one thing that he's suggesting. And it's also because it can be really kind of fun, as well as then it can open up, he says, additional doors for you as you move to that path on the right, that then he has a role to play as well. And he's not saying what that is yet because he's like, we got to get there when we get there. But there's this be creates this confidence and uh trust, as well as you get to say, see, look at this is what this is what

Speaker 2 a dug a mellow can be.

Speaker 1 This is what a good boy, but what is that actually? When you said that I wrote it down, my dream is I want to like travel with mellow, I want to take him places. I just know right now there's no way I would feel comfortable taking him on a plane if he's screaming and freaking out like this. So I was like, how do I get him certified as an actual like because he is my service animal, like actually, uh, but like I I don't know exactly how to do it. And a lot of places don't even let dogs in, even if they're like emotional support animals.

Speaker 1 They have to go through, like, so what is canine good citizen? Maybe that's what I don't know about.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So you can you can Google it. It is actually a program and a it's almost like a certification level. So you go through several different types of obedience training that keep laddering up and then they pass an exam that is the canine good citizen exam. And it and they have to show it's almost service dog. I don't I wouldn't say service dogs go through that, but I'm sure they go through a form of it. But canine good citizen is like for the use and me's of the world that you know don't necessarily have like a you know seeing eye dog or you know, an emotional

Speaker 2 support dog and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Um yeah, yeah cool, because like I wanna, yeah, I do want to take him places. It's just sometimes it's not up to me. But overall, again, he's such a good boy. He just wants to go up to like he'll go up to people sometimes just from behind and start smelling their butt. And I'm like, honestly, for a dog person, that's fine. But if somebody, if a dog would have done that to me, yeah, it would have scared me. So thank goodness everyone's like, oh, he's so cute. And I'm like, yeah, Mello, don't go and stick your nose up someone's butt.

Speaker 3 Like he might not like that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Well, and part of it too for him is what what I'm hearing him say is part of it too is like mental stimulation. He's really intelligent. And so he needs what I'm hearing him say is I need more, because I'm sure you've heard the phrase sniffari, um, where the dog gets to go and kind of explore and use their nose because it lights everything up in their brain. He needs more stimulation. So, but it's more like um high-level puzzle, organized dog play kind of thing. So you could take him to a doggy daycare, but it has to be one where they're doing maybe like agility

Speaker 2 training or they're doing fly ball or they're doing something where he has to really think because there's a whole lot going on up there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, he loves it. I've been doing that too. Like he has every snuff. Like, I thought Rad sniffed a lot. Oh my God. Mello, I think I joked he could be one of those, you know, search and rescue dogs. His nose, like his smelling, I've been doing it as much as I can because I know that that's almost like really great, like just like walking. So I'm doing my best. I'm gonna try to do more. But yes, um, okay. That sounds does that help answer that one? Yeah. I mean, again, it sounds like I'm kind of doing the right stuff, honestly. What I'm hearing is

Speaker 1 it's like validating and he's happy. And I mean, he seems happy. He's always, you know, they say when dogs lay on their back with just their leg, like he is chilling so hard. He seems like he feels very comfortable faster than Rad did. Rad only started like smiling. It was so cute. Months in this guy, he is, he seems so, he's like, ah, I'm so happy, I'm so happy. And then also, like, oh my god, what's wrong? And I'm just like always asking, like, Melo, is this joy? Is this anxiety? Maybe it's both. And um, and then he just lays around and chills super hard. And

Speaker 1 I love playing with him, so I'm just gonna keep playing with him because he seems to enjoy that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. Um, well, we can get to the soul level lesson if you want to. Yes. Okay, okay. Are you sure? Are you good? Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 No, I think I'm good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, okay. So when we get to the soul level lesson, then there's four questions that I ask. I'm gonna ask Mello because I'm asking them how they want to do this. So Mello's gonna be the one to answer. And just know, Rad says that he's here helping Mello either translate or he's providing extra support and he may chime in. Okay. So and many times we can do this even with a dog that's in spirit because they still show a behavior, but they really want to turn it to rad right now. So just know that for you.

Speaker 1 Wait, to Mello or to Rad?

Speaker 2 So so Rad's gonna, or sorry, so Melo's gonna answer. Yep. Got it. But even if it was even if you only had Rad in your life and you didn't have Rad would still have a soul level lesson for you. Okay, so he's just chiming in because they're working together, like this intertwinedness. Okay. So the first question I ask Mello is what behavior are you showing mom? What's it call me mom? Have you call me, have you me call you mom? What behavior are you showing mom when it's the when it's the time to work on the soul level lesson? What behavior do you show her? And

Speaker 2 I he shows me like this enthusiastic running around, here eyes big, like oh, like zoomies. It's almost like zoomies, but it feels like it's really concentrated in a small area, and he's kind of like, I feel so bad.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, Mello. It's such a mess here. And he's just like literally, it's an agility course accidentally, which so he's doing great, honestly. It's like hilarious.

Speaker 2 I'm working on it though. No, and there was no like, please move the stuff. There was no message of that in there. There was just more like, he's just like, he's just showing me being tight that he can be this active and like this kind of ball of energy. So just that's the behavior, okay? So the second question is what is the soul level lesson that you are working on with mom? What is the soul level?

Speaker 2 He's making me laugh. When I go, it's interesting how he says this. So take this the way he means it. When I go high, you go low. So when I get excited, you go you go slow, low, calm down, grounding, and you just enjoy. There's like this react, like this reaction thing you're just talking about, right? Like you're not gonna, ah, like you're not, he's more trying to excise what I'm hearing him say, some of the uh going on, but it's also you just going, oh, there he goes again. He's so cute. Oh, there he goes again. Okay, does that make sense? Like you started, he's

Speaker 2 starting to answer number three. So, but I'll so let me stop in just a second. Does that make sense as far as the lesson? Okay, when he goes high, you go. Okay. The third question is what does mom need to do with you to learn this lesson? And I feel like Rad's got a little something to say here too. So we'll come to Rad in a minute. But what does Mello, what does mom need to do with you to learn this lesson? And it is, and it's there's another component to it. So when you see him doing that behavior, he does want you to just go

Speaker 2 and just immediately like it's almost like you ignore him and just close your eyes and tune in. And either whether you're sitting or your feet are on the ground, either way, feel your um feet or your butt grow, grow in those roots into the ground and do that large exhale. And even when you breathe in, I learned this meditation the other day. When you breathe in, you say the word let. And when you breathe out, you say the word go. And just yep. And that's that's the homework that you walk away with. So when he does that behavior, oh, there's my lesson. Okay, as a practice

Speaker 2 to move forward in other in other situations, but that's the one he's trying to just like, hey, right now, right now, right now, so that you have that opportunity to dive in. Does that make sense? I just felt that it like actually calmed me down. So you mella, okay. So then so Rad, Rad is saying, and if you need extra help, mom, in that homework practice, then you picture me and you hold me right across your your heart. Because I'm always there. So even when you need to just have a little moment of calm, you just he's like he wants you to physically even hold him

Speaker 2 and pull him to your heart and just like hug yourself.

Speaker 5 Hmm.

Speaker 2 Does it make sense? Okay.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So then the fourth question is how will the relationship, and this is Tamello, how will the relationship with can't even finish the question? How will the relationship with you and mom change as she begins to work on this lesson? And I and so Rad also pops in too because he shows me all three of you wearing bow ties, looking very dandy, very put together, very out and about, and everybody walk, like you walk by, and everybody's like, look at that woman, that amazing dog. Like that's because both of you are just in your element. You are exactly who you're supposed to be. You're going at your

Speaker 2 own pace, and you have each other's back.

Speaker 1 Okay, so why this is again so insanely profound is Rad had his rad bow tie. He always wore it, and it said rad. I got a matching one for Mello that's a different color, and I got one for me. They're all the same bow tie on a bandana. Rad's was like this orange color. I have it in my room. Mello is wearing his. I just put it on back today. I like forgot about it, and I have a purple one. And so you saying the three of us are wearing bow ties, like literally, we all have matching bow ties. And everywhere I go, everywhere, people go,

Speaker 1 Oh my god, that is the most beautiful dog. And they used to say the same thing about Rad. Everyone who would meet Rad would go, Whoa, he is Rad.

Speaker 5 Emoji mushroom. Emoji kisses.

Speaker 1 Do you hear that? Yeah. No, no, no. Like my headphones just started talking to me about messages on my phone. So if I hope you didn't hear that. Whoa, the technology's all connected. So hold on. I'm gonna pause because it sounds like no one else heard that.

Speaker 2 I can hear like a guy talking, but I can't tell. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh. That's exactly stop talking. I know what that is. I'm wearing Ray-Ban smart glasses, and sometimes they talk to me. Okay, so funny enough for the audience, if you heard any of that, remember if you're recording a show, take off the freaking smart glasses. And also Ray-Ban Meta, work on that. That is very distracting. But anyway, um, yes, I mean these dogs, and I know everyone thinks their dogs are special, and they are, but there's something about these, I just feel like I got so blessed that I made these agreements with these absolutely beautiful, dynamic dogs. And I I already feel that.

Speaker 1 Because I felt since I was a little kid that I got this gift, even why this show, like I haven't even marketed the show. I haven't had the energy, and it's been growing, it's been listened to in over like 280 cities in the world. So I know that I'm this is what I'm supposed to do. I'm supposed to share. And I've had so many people in my life tell me that I'm too loud and it hurts so much that now I'm like, I'm gonna just talk to a microphone because then people who want to listen, I'm talking about listening, right? It's like, and they're both, I

Speaker 1 feel like saying, no, like be loud, do you, and then just like let go of that. I don't want to worry about, I just don't want to worry about anymore being to this or to that, or that I'm late. I don't want to be in a rush. I got a cane in honor of Rad, and it says, I inscribed into it, it says, I am exactly perfectly on time walking with Rad always by my side. Really, I wanted that cane forever as a reminder to keep walking slow, even as my feet start being able to walk fast. Like I really believe the most radical thing that

Speaker 1 any of us can do is go slow in a world where everyone is in a rush. So I'm just really grateful. I think I want to say to Mello and Rad because truly this has been the hardest time, but I feel so grateful. Like I like me more. I feel like more grateful for my life. I have more faith. It's kind of if someone would have told me that this is how it would unfold, I would have wanted to believe it. I probably would have had um a harder time, but I was. I was, I was really, I wanted to live in honor of Rad. So

Speaker 1 I also just want to thank Rad while he's still here. Um, when I woke up the day on the 4th of July, I was so I almost felt like what just happened? You know, it was like this daze. I got home from the hospital alone at one in the morning in this day. And I when I woke up the next day, I was like, okay, the question in my head was, why is this happening? And as soon as I caught it, because I always say, ask the right questions, I realized that is not the right question. So I said, I took a breath and I said,

Speaker 1 What is the question? What is a better question? And the question that came was, what do I do to have a rad day? How do I honor rat? And I'm telling you, it changed my whole life. I've been doing that. Everything I've been doing, I'm like, what would Rad do? My friend Mazn laughed that it's like radism or religion, but really, if there was one, I want to be like Rad. Rad would say, slow down, chill out, be mellow. Mellow would say, be silly, scream a little, show your joy, don't be embarrassed. And it's like, I mean, I love those lessons. So anyway, I'm just grateful.

Speaker 1 Thank you. That so resonates.

Speaker 2 Good, wonderful. Thank you. Yeah, there again, Rad comes right forward and it just says again how proud he is. I'm just so proud of you. I am just so proud of you. Just so stinking proud of you. That's what I hear him say.

Speaker 1 Well, I I'm I'm proud of you and I'm grateful for you, and it's such an honor. And I do hope that maybe that's the last thing is like, will I, will when are we gonna get to see each other again? Because Melo's with me now, but Melo will go one day too. And maybe even for the listener, because I just remembered we're on a podcast. Honestly, I was just so in this that like I've thought, like, I know I believe, you know, in this rainbow bridge. And by the way, I hadn't even heard of that concept until it started popping up. And like, I do believe,

Speaker 1 even though we're connected, I can't feel you see you now. But like, when do we get to see each other? I feel like Rat and I must keep meeting again in in every life, or I don't know how all this stuff works. So maybe do they have any thoughts about like oh yeah, that yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 So I will ask them specifically so yes, absolutely. All three of you have been, this is not, and I say this, you'll hear people who have readings with me will this will happen from time to time. Um, their favorite line is this is not our favorite, or not our first rodeo. So you all have been together multiple lifetimes. You've actually always been together as a threesome. So either you and and the two together all it physically, or one bringing the other in, or there's at least, but you've all had lives together. For some reason, this is the one that Rad wants to focus on. For some

Speaker 2 reason, he's showing me you in a previous life as a male banker, and it looks like you were you were not, it wasn't in this country, it was actually like I'm trying to see if he'll show me if it's some, it might have been more like in what is now the Middle East, but you were a banker. Um, and yet, even though there was this focus on um um, how do I want to say like growing the business? There was always a very compassionate aspect in how money or the exchange of value could help other people. And you always you had these two boys at your

Speaker 2 side because you were also there's something too about you were always really connected with more than just this value system, and that's yeah, so that's one, and it's interesting, they'll bring whatever life you need to know about in the moment, but and absolutely they will see you again too when you cross.

Speaker 1 So yeah, once again, it's just insanely so spot on because uh only now have I really gotten interested in investing this. I always so the fact that it's just funny, only now I was always like I knew that in a previous life I had had a lot of money, but I wasn't happy. So I never chased that in this life. All I ever really wanted to do, which I do, and I'm really proud of myself that I followed my gut, even though it seemed insane that I was walking away from a lot of money, uh, was I wanted to help people, but now I've realized they

Speaker 1 definitely go together. So I've been like, okay, now I'm gonna tap into seeing that there's nothing sexy about being poor and there's nothing spiritual about being poor. Actually, I was an immigrant, I think I had to go through that journey of realizing money doesn't make us happy, but money does give you more opportunities to help yourself and others. And that's so interesting that now I'm like, okay, so that banker life, come back and let me remember what I did uh because I know I can do good. Yeah. Like honestly, what I want to do now is I want to somehow make so much money. So out

Speaker 1 there, consider if you want to sponsor the show or just hire me as a coach because I want to take that money and I want to build some sort of nonprofit that helps people deal with animal grief. I'm telling you, I really feel like I'm meant to have now some sort of like rad clinic around grief. It doesn't exist. Like, where do you go when you're completely heartbroken? I heard recently that New York just passed a law, first city where people get time off when an animal passes away. Which I was like, yes. I mean, it's like it's just something that you can't understand until it

Speaker 1 happens to you. And it's all grief is horrible, but I feel like I are they kind of like saying bye now. I feel like we're really shifting out of the the the um the session, but I'm just so grateful this really like warmed my heart and the banker thing. And I mean, there's again, every time Julie, I do this with you, I'm like, even if you were making this shit up, how would you make it up so accurately?

Speaker 2 Like I don't know, that's why I laugh. I'm always in awe, right? I'm always in awe. Like when you say the different things that I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Like, because I'm like, oh, really? That made sense because I have no idea what I'm talking about. So when it when it resonates, I'm like, wow, thank you. Thank you, universe, thank you, dogs, thank you, animals, for leading me here and allowing me to be of service. That's the biggest thing. Like, just yeah, and there is something about that path to the right and the money that you were talking about too. So just know

Speaker 2 there's something there coming together for you.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm not even gonna get political, but it's been so interesting how much more right I've been leaning in a lot of ways, even in what's happening in the world. And I'm always a person who's more moderate in my views and ways, but it's like so clear that like now, even as our country has moved more right, and I'm not even talking politics, it's just what is the right choice? What does it mean to live according to the right values? Like all those questions, I'm just gonna keep asking them. And Rad reminded me of that too. Rad really showed me on that day that switching that

Speaker 1 question about what does it look like to lead a rad life save my life. Um, and it reminds me to speak up more, share, even hear that. Like, I even as I said that just now, I said, Oh, I'm leaning a little more towards the right politically. I got scared. I thought, oh my God, what if somebody hears that and makes up a story? And now I'm like, good, make up a story. That's what we do, that's okay. I still want to be brave enough to share the truth and invite the listener to notice how it lands. Right. Even now, as we're wrapping, I'm so curious,

Speaker 1 like, what was that like? That was long. This is already the longest episode I've ever recorded, and I'm so excited because if someone's still listening, that means they want to be. And how precious is that? So, uh, how do we wrap the part, I guess, of the of the session and then go back to our regularly scheduled podcast?

Speaker 2 So I just, yeah, I just thank Brad and Mello for being here and just I just check if there's anything they want to say. They just want to say, you know, doing the right thing, just to kind of bring your point home about being in the right is doing the right thing with this love, right? Which is what they're saying, which is what you do. Yeah, yeah, love yourself, love everyone else. We're all connected, yeah. So, yeah.

Speaker 1 I love you, Radamelwo. And we're gonna keep communicating. I'm gonna keep paying attention to the signs. And feel free, Raddy, keep sending them because I am listening. Yeah, yeah. Wow. That's like I can't wait to listen back to this. Um, but all of that resonated, honestly. So I mean, the bow ties, come on. It's like, what? Yeah, I'm gonna put I'm gonna literally when we go out, I'm gonna put my bow tie on. Um, I loved that was like Rad's bow tie. And I I really I wanted one too. I'm like, Mello has one, Rad has one.

Speaker 2 So that's awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all the cool kids have their own little bandana bow tie, apparently. Um, all right, okay, so Julie, I also know we're we're Technically past the time I said we'd be done. So just out of respect for you, now that we're out of that session, wow. Um, what's present for you now? I I want to see what else we can cover or mention that you think would because this is about you. I wanted to showcase your incredible genius. And again, thank you so much. I feel like this is gonna take me time to like even process after. Yeah. But is there anything else?

Speaker 2 Not necessarily from the boys. I mean, for me, uh like I said, I'm always in awe in these sessions because it's just amazing what comes through and what, you know, how everything resonates for people. And I'm always just so amazed at how much how profound the readings can be and how multi-layered. So I always record them for people, as you know, so that you can play it back again because you'll hear it once, and then the second time you'll hear the the next layer, and then you can hear the next layer. Because usually the lessons can be a little deep as you start to move through

Speaker 2 the homework with them, things can start to unveil themselves. And you're like, oh, I see that. Oh, I just like you, Ari. The more you open, the more open you are, right? And so it just begins to happen. So yeah, there's just um, I really enjoy. I never thought it would be this deep and profound, but that's the part I really love. And also helping people open up their intuition, which the animals are all asking us to do.

Speaker 1 So yes, maybe that before we wrap, I I'd love for you to touch upon that because we talked about that when we were sort of doing our little light prep. That's huge, right? Because this can help a lot of people, whether they have an animal who's perfectly healthy or sick or past. Like, what can a person who's listening to this and who's like, whoa, this is so cool and interesting? How do I connect a bit more with my animal, with my intuition? And then also I want you to say how people can contact you because I'll give your info because maybe people, I mean, I'm sure

Speaker 1 people will want to perhaps even do something like what we just did. But like, can you talk a little bit about like what can we do to strengthen our own connection to our animals outside of like an animal communication session?

Speaker 2 So we all have the ability to do what I do. Um, it's just as we as a species have moved through and created these systems in place, we have separated ourselves from nature. We think we're outside of nature, we don't, you know, nature scares us, that type of stuff. So spending time in nature actually can really help ground us, can open us, because grounding is a really big component of being to open up your intuition. The more I like before I have any session, I'm meditating, I'm going really quiet, I'm being really slow, just like you have spent, like just to be able to open up.

Speaker 2 So, first there's just belief that anyone can do this work, which is true. Second, is just that quiet, grounded going, being still. There is a I follow, I I love the mystics, which were um people who were very in tune with whoever the God is that you worship. So just God is like an overall thing. Don't please take it as like the strict religious God. Um, but these were people that, and they live today too. Um, but there were people like father or like um uh St. Francis of Assisi, Hildegard of Bingen, who are very connected with all that is in the spirituality and whatnot. And

Speaker 2 I'm very, I love that line of thinking and belief because it's so connected and it shows how humans were part of everything before the separation took place, um, largely driven to some degree by the Catholic Church, but that's another story for another day. There is, I think, a living, there's a couple living mystics that I know of right now. One his name is Father Richard Rohr. He is actually a Franciscan priest. He lives in uh the high desert of New Mexico. Um, he's amazing. He's 80 some years old, but very much in tune with all of that type of stuff and has a dog, very much

Speaker 2 about the ducks. It's a whole thing, anyway. But when you listen to those, when you listen to him, he's talking about love and how love brings everything together. Um, and there's another woman that's her name's Mirabai Star, she just wrote a book called Ordinary Mysticism. So there's things like that, and that can get a little bit spiritual. Some people might say religious, and that's not necessarily my intent. It's more about how can we find the magic in the everyday. And I also study the mystics because if people are worried about that this butts up against or is flies in the face of religion, I can say

Speaker 2 no, it doesn't. Just like it doesn't fly in the face of science because there's so many books coming out right now about the intelligence of everything else. So, anyways, just know that everything you can do this on your own. The biggest thing is just grounding and going quiet. And we also caught talk the my colleagues and I talk about energy management. So, really tuning into your body and understanding what's not in alignment, what's not, you know, flowing freely. Are you anxious? Are you nervous? Are you scared? Are you afraid? Are you angry? And what is that about? Because then you go back that next layer. But

Speaker 2 all of that helps. To do this work, I've had to do a lot of self-work thanks to Lucas helping with the broken leg. So, but all of that um is just really key. But if anybody's interested in doing a session with me, you can find me at my website, which is Julie Heart-intuitive.com. Um which I will post. Thank you. I will post in a link.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 Um, I am a co-host of the Animal Communication Podcast. So you can also find some information about me at the Animal Communication Podcast.com. Um, yes. And if you are interested in learning about this, you can also follow me on on Substack with Trust the Animals. Um and also on all the social media channels and all that other good stuff. But yeah, uh websites the best way to get a hold of me if you have a question or you want to book a session or not sure what session is right for you. Absolutely reach out and let me know.

Speaker 1 Beautiful. Because you also you do the animal communication, but you're also you have all these amazing, by the way. When I was reading your certifications, I'm like, oh my God, what is that? That's incredible. I want that certification. But you work with people as well, just as an intuitive uh so um amazing. I'll post all of Julie's information. I mean, I I I think truly the best thing I did was reach out to you. I don't know what I would have done. I mean, I would have survived, right? I'm also realizing, I keep joking, I am a beast, and I say that in the biggest way.

Speaker 1 Like I have seen now what I can go through, and I'm really proud of myself. I feel like that compassion program I did at Stanford last year, I was wondering, it's so interesting the timing. I think it saved my life. I was able to be kind to myself in a way that I wasn't able to ever in my life. And then with your support and with the support of other people again, thank you to Abby, thank you to my parents, thank you to my other friends. I'm not gonna name everyone, but a very select group of people uh really showed up. Like the universe, I said

Speaker 1 I surrendered one night. I was in such a breakdown, and I literally took a breath and I stopped and I simply said, if I am meant to keep mellow, somehow somebody will show up. And if not, I was ready to give them up as just a surrender. And literally the next day Abby showed up. And suddenly I was like, I think I'm seeing, and this is for the listener as we wrap around our homework and just notice how how are you feeling now? What was it like, right? Because these were some really big conversations, topics. Um I believe, at least for me. And I believe it's

Speaker 1 when our faith is really, really tested that we discover whether we have it, right? Like when everything is going well and easy, it's not very hard to have faith, but it's when like thing I never expected that losing rad, I would also lose my ability to walk. So I was literally forced to sit with the biggest pain. I couldn't walk it off, I couldn't escape it, like in a way where I might have before like I couldn't even take a walk to clear my head. I had to literally sit in pain with myself, and I realized that I might as well just move into the pain.

Speaker 1 Like I said yes to the pain, and in that wow, I really feel like pain is a portal to our power. Like that even came to me with the PPP. Like I am so grateful to you, to Rad, to Mello, to myself for continuing. I used to joke, if you can't run, walk, if you can't walk, crawl. I couldn't crawl. So now I say one limp at a time. And I've become more compassionate to people I see on the street, elderly people with canes who are walking across the street slow. And I used to be annoyed. I used to be annoyed, right? Because I was like

Speaker 1 constantly like, I gotta go. Now, when like I pull up behind a car that's blocking me, I'm just like, okay, I'm exactly perfectly on time. Like, really, now I'll even pull up in the traffic lanes to the slow lane and go behind the slowest car. Just I and it's funny, I've really like I want to keep doing this because I like it. It actually feels more peaceful to live in this vibration. And what's funny is the more I slow down, the more time I seem to have. The irony of that and the magic of that is like whoa. So, with that, I'm gonna say, listener, your

Speaker 1 homework. I'm gonna give you one homework and Julie, maybe you can give one homework, whatever feels good. Since we are again wrapping up our rad lesson here. Um, my homework for the listener, and I wrote this down and I really loved it, because you said when we were starting that these sessions are not just for me, but they're for all of us. And the thing that you said that I really felt was in a moment of overwhelm, like with mellow, to place my feet on the ground, take a deep breath and say, let go. I want to assign that to the listener because I don't know

Speaker 1 who you are out there, but I know you have moments of stress right now. There's no way in our world that you're not having some overwhelming moment. So that's what I say. A, take whatever resonated, but B, if that's a practice that feels supportive, that is the essence of masterful listening. It's being able to catch yourself in a moment. And instead of doing the impulsive habitual thing that might spin you out more, it's like making a different conscious choice. So I think that's my homework. Do you have any homework that you want to leave?

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, and this is from the animals. So, what they're saying is when if you're if you have an animal and your animal's alive and they're doing something that catches your attention to go, wait, why are they doing that? Why are they doing that? See if you can't spend some time to go quiet and ask yourself, what is it that it's is it bothering you? Is it activating you? What is it that it's doing? Because that's where the lesson is and that's where the homework is. And the same can go true for wild animals if you don't have your own animal, or if someone or if

Speaker 2 an animal of yours has gone and has crossed the rainbow bridge and is in spirit. Are they coming to you in times when you're stressed? Or are they coming to you when you're like you did something good and they're just you're there to cheer you on? So just notice those little moments and see what it brings up for you, because that's how they're trying to coach you, that's how they're trying to work with you, and that's where they're asking for your trust.

Speaker 1 I love that. And pay attention to the birds and pay attention, like every when a spider shows up, right? Like the universe is always communicating with us. And so with that, thank you so much again, Julie. I will post all of your contact information, and I'll end with this. I recently heard this quote and I am obsessed with it. And if you are still here, I hope it really lands with you as deeply as it lands with me. It was that time is the only currency which we never know our balance of. So use it wisely. And I was just like, oh like, right? Like I

Speaker 1 wish that, like I I cried. I thought, I wish I'd known that day with Rad that it was our last day. Maybe I would have like done something differently. And now when I think about it, we just had a super laid-back day. I couldn't walk, I was icing my knee. I thought, man, I wish I would have taken him on this big old walk or whatever. But he seemed fine and happy. And in a way, it's like you just don't know how much time you have ever. So use it well. And remember, you're exactly perfectly on time. You have exactly enough time. And I hope that

Speaker 1 this conversation really supports you out there on your journey. And if you loved it, uh share with your friends. Yeah, I always forget to say, share the podcast, but you know what? Share it because Julie's amazing and reach out to her. And thank you for listening. See you next time.