Svetlana Saitsky

Masterful Listening Podcast · Season 1 · Episode 6

Dreams, Delusions, Detachment & Dancing In The Moment ( With Your Life, Yourself & Your Partner)

Hosted by Svetlana Saitsky, listening coach and executive coach  ·  December 8, 2023

This episode is dedicated to one of the ultimate dreamers, Mr. Jason Mraz. Watching your authentic and vulnerable dance moves on Dancing with the Stars reminded me of the sheer power of not just dreaming, but embracing the audacity of being delusional about our dreams.

As I always say, when you think your dream is colossal, go ahead and dream even bigger. And here's the kicker: detach yourself from the outcome, from how it unfolds, or any rigid expectations. Because let's face it, things never go exactly as planned. However, I've discovered that when we keep moving forward and embrace the dance of life with ourselves, each other, and the universe, we often stumble upon incredible detours that enrich our experiences far beyond what we initially imagined.

In this episode, I'll share the captivating story of how my hat company, Rad Hats for Rad Humans, practically sprouted its own wings, all stemming from a wildly delusional dream. But here's the twist: it was through completely detaching myself from that dream and dancing with life's unpredictable rhythm that the magic happened.

So get ready to be inspired to dream bigger, to embrace a touch of delightful delusion in your aspirations, and most importantly, to find the power to detach from the outcome. Let's dance metaphorically and physically, exploring every avenue life presents us with. Together, we'll embark on a journey that challenges conventions, defies expectations, and leads us to the extraordinary, period.

PS. Attached is the article I mentioned in the episode. Prepare to be captivated by the world of dance, where fun and fitness intertwine with profound life lessons for the body, mind, heart, and spirit. Join me in the rhythmic journey of self-discovery - let's dance our way to pure joy!

Massive gratitude to Jason Mraz for your music, your super Rad dancing on season 32 of Dancing With The Stars, and for your constant inspiration. 

Read 12 Life Lessons I Learned from Dancing
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Full Episode Transcript

Welcome back! Alright, which episode is this? Because last time I said it was six, but it was actually five. So here we go, episode six. Ooh, we got a topic. We're gonna talk about the four Dreams, delusions, detachment, and dancing. Uh first of all, shout out to one of my favorite humans, musicians and mentors, Mr. Jason Mraz, for your dancing with the stars success. I mean, listen, Jason, if you ever hear this, I want you to know, and I want everyone to listen to this. You are so freaking cool. I mean, the way you dream and then do it, because what's a dream, right? It's a

goal with a deadline. Ah, it's profound. And dance has been one of the things that has truly changed my life in such profound ways. I actually wrote an article years ago about 12 dances or no, 12 lessons I learned from the salsa floor. Uh, I've been a salsa dancer now for uh gosh, over a decade, and I'll get to that later. But the point is, dancing is a dream for many, for many reasons. Dancing is my favorite medicine. Like anytime I actually get myself to the salsa club, I'm like, oh, it's just getting there is hard, right? Which actually brings me to what I wanted to

share at the very beginning of this uh, you know, masterful listening podcast and school, right? It's a listening school. So also, are you ready to listen? Are you in a place where you can listen? Are you really curious about delusions and dreams and detachment and dancing and how they're all connected to not just listening, but to living a masterful life, a masterfully curated life where if you're listening to yourself and to your dreams, and you allow yourself to be just a bit delusional, but in a healthy way, because not all delusion is healthy, uh, and then you detach, right? A lot of people talk about that,

you know, be unattached. You know how hard it is to be unattached to a dream, to something that you really want, yeah, and that is really the key. So, what can we do to dream delusionally? I always say if you think your dream's too big, dream bigger. And yet we worry, right? What if it doesn't happen? What if I don't get the thing, the job, the person, the what if my company doesn't take off or whatever your dream is? Yeah, and then that fear stops most people from dreaming. So that's where the detachment comes in. And what else is there? There is the dance, dancing with

life, dancing with yourself. One of the first coaching principles that I learned is this idea of dancing in the moment. It's not about dance though, it's about being with what is. And it was taught to me more like how to be with a client, how to dance in the moment. But what about how do you dance with a moment with yourself that's uncomfortable or that's really freaking awesome, right? Are you dancing with yourself or are you stepping on your own toes? Because if you've ever been at a salsa club or a dance club and you're wearing shoes with open toes, and someone steps on your leg

or your foot or whatever on your toe, oh just thinking about that gives me chills. So you know what I'm saying? How do we dance with ourselves? How do we dance with others? Well, it starts by listening. So I'm gonna tell a story because that's what I do. I'm gonna tell a story about dreaming, about dreams, about allowing yourself to be a delusional, meaning make a massive make your dreams, allow yourself to dream so big that it doesn't seem realistic. But if we do it from a place of genuine love and passion and purpose and impact, and just like, you know, a real authentic dream, desire,

goal. Remember, a dream is just a goal with a deadline of some kind, or a goal is just a dream with a deadline. Did I say that backwards? You get what I'm saying? Deadlines help. Remember, I'm a coach, I'm always infusing these tools because even sitting down to record this podcast, it was hilarious. It took me an extra 24 hours. And yet I was like, you know what? Oh, I know. You know what I've learned as a procrastinator, which is gonna be a whole other episode. I've learned that the main thing that has always helped me just actually do the thing. Have you ever needed to

do something, even wanted to do something, but find yourself procrastinating? Huh. I heard once it was a funny meme or video recently where it said, if you need someone to clean your house, ask someone with ADHD who has a deadline tomorrow, right? It's like you gotta do that work, and yet suddenly I'm cleaning, washing the dishes. Yeah. So here's the million-dollar uh solution for that. The way that I get myself to do anything that I like, that I don't like, that I want to, that I don't want to when I find myself somehow putting it off, is I put my uh butt in the chair. Like

once I sit in this chair right here, I'm ready. And I'm like, oh my gosh, thank God. But just like getting your butt in the chair. So what does that mean? Again, other episode. But if you're struggling with procrastination, even on things you know you want to do, put your butt in the chair. Get a good chair, get a good hat, you know. I'm wearing a rad hat right now. Uh, that's actually something I'm gonna talk about because it was my dream my whole life to make money as an artist, to do my art, to be creative, to use the left brain and the right brain,

uh, and and you know, make a living. And yet, ooh, that was a tough dream. And I'm gonna talk about that dream. I'm gonna talk about how my company, Rad Hats for Rad Humans, literally started itself. You know how they say that overnight success usually takes a decade or 15 years or whatever. I find that is so true. When the timing is right, it's all about timing. I find that the puzzle pieces of life kind of, you know, they like click in together and then it's like, poof, wow, how did that just happen? How did I sell a hundred hats and have them in boutiques when

I wasn't even trying to do that? I was just in a rough place and decided to do the whole thing I talk about and teach in my mental wealth workshops, you know, five minutes a day, do something for five minutes a day, like paint or draw or whatever sing. I've done them all. I started painting a hat because I love hats. And I did it for me, and then I wore it, and then every day I wore it, someone wanted one, and then boom, point is uh our dreams don't always come to fruition the way we think. That's the detachment. But before I get into the

story, let me invite you to listen in a certain way, since that will that's what we do here in this listening school. That's what we do. That's what we do. Um, and by the way, we're also compassionate here because as speakers and as listeners, we might fumble, get distracted, mess up our words, whatever. I'm telling you, no one actually cares. One of my favorite things is reading a book of a brilliant person and finding a typo. Not because I want them to have typos, because it makes me feel a little better about all the typos of my life, right? All right. So, in terms of how

I'd love for you to listen today, everything we've been talking about thus far, right? Listen fully. Only listen to this if you can actually listen. Really, I'm gonna keep making this very clear. This podcast is not just for entertainment. Feel free to listen to it for that too, but pay attention to how you listen. Listen fully to my voice, to what I'm not saying, what I am saying, to tone. Listen to yourself as your mind starts asking questions, gets curious, come back to listening. Okay, we all get inspired, we all get distracted. Those are not inherently bad things, but if you're really wanting to hear, not

just listen, but hear someone and get the essence of what they're talking about. Because you're curious, which I hope you are right now, then you gotta listen fully, you gotta listen masterfully. So here we go.

A good breath. So I've had a lot of dreams, and one of the reasons that I love being a coach is because I don't know about you, but I feel like as we get older, we don't dream as much. You know, as kids, we're dreaming all kinds of things. And you know, it's funny, whenever I find adults ask each other about dreaming or even talk about dreaming, they often say, Well, what did you dream of as a kid? And that's a great question. I'm curious, what are you dreaming of as an adult? And that's why I love coaching, because coaching is a modality that just champions

your dreams. Hell yeah, go for it. And what are you gonna do? Buy when? How can I help? Right? Those are like the three coaching questions. And I mean, there's many, many, many more because also I want to understand where's that dream coming from? Is that an authentic dream that you have? And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter where your fucking dreams are coming from. If they're yours, you're entitled to your dreams and you are entitled to being delusional. So here was one of my dreams and the delusion and why it was helpful, but also a reminder to detach because I find that

no matter what I want or how brilliant I think my ideas or dreams are, they never go the way I thought. And now I come back to, you know, some mantras like a no is a yes to something better, and I am exactly perfectly on time. And I think, hmm, there must be an even more awesome plan here in this whole place, you know, Earth. It's a weird freaking place, but dreaming makes it a really more epic journey. One of my biggest dreams as an artist was to do what I love, right? Make art. I wanted to do a lot of things, but I always wanted

to incorporate the left and right brain. I think Daniel Pink, many years ago, like 20 years ago, wrote a book. Gosh, it's not coming to me at this moment. I'm gonna try to see if it comes into my mind as I'm talking. But it was about, again, the power of creativity, right brain thinking. There's been a lot more conversation of that, you know, um, a company that I think does this brilliantly, uh, you know, in the human-centered design spaces, IDO. Um, the ideas that there's there's creative approaches, there's brainstorming, there's creativity in all ways that actually I have found has always made me more successful in

business. And yet I wanted to make money as an artist. And I don't know about you, but how many artists do you know that are successful artists in terms of they make money with their art? I don't know too many, and I also am done saying, oh, that's impossible, that's really hard, because I feel like when we keep telling ourselves that something is hard, it certainly doesn't make it easier or more possible. And yet, you gotta be realistic, I think, right? It is challenging as an artist to make a living because artists and artistry is a very different skill set than sales, entrepreneurship, business, finance, right?

And I looking back now at the puzzle pieces of my life, frankly, because my artistry and my career as an artist seemed a lot more delusional uh pretty much my whole life, I actually pivoted, focused more on the business side and now the art thing in terms of it making money and turning into more of you know, one of my sources of not just joy and expression, but security and like abundance. Yeah, that happened totally differently. And it was not because I was working on it at all. That's what was crazy. So, about let's see, what is it now? It is December. I think last August,

so a bit over a year. Oh gosh, I guess almost a year and a half, I ordered a hat on Etsy. I've always loved hats, I've worn hats my whole life, and I've been an artist my whole life, but I'd never really painted. My medium was photography first. And actually, let me give a quick shout out to my first photography teacher, uh, Jerry. Jerry Eisner, uh, you said something to me that has fundamentally been a foundation now my whole life. Uh, when I was studying photography, this was back in high school, we worked in a dark room, right? I was developing my own prints. That was

still one of the things I enjoyed the most. In fact, I'm trying to build a dark room again because that experience of just watching an image appear, right? And understanding the lighting and how do you develop it and all of that. It was it was a lot, and it was a lot of technical things, and it was a lot of just like artistic things, like how do you capture a moment, excuse me, worth capturing. I was a bit concerned because everyone was obsessed with studying lighting. And I went to Jerry and I said, man, like I don't know about this whole getting the lighting perfect. And

he looked at me and he said, Svetlana, forget the lighting, get the moment. He gave me permission to not be so obsessed with making it perfect and getting the perfect lighting, but capturing the moment. And that same year, my English teacher, who Mr. Tom Warden, I love you, and I'm gonna keep saying it, Tom said, forget the grammar, get the story, Svet. So I was told by Tom and Jerry to get the story and the moment. And I feel like that's what I've been doing my whole life because we can learn lighting, we can learn grammar, but to have the courage and awareness to just get

the moment, be in the moment, and then tell the story of it is why I have a storytelling podcast, teaching listening, right? So my journey started with photography. I've been a photographer my whole life. Then it veered because when I moved to San Francisco and I had this dream of I want to make money as a photographer, I actually started doing it. I had a friend who ran an event space and he hired me to do some event photography. And then that led to more event photography. And that was the place to make money with this. And at first I was like, wow. And then after

like four clients, I hated it. Event photography, yeah, it made more money than I ever made per hour, but it wasn't my vision, it wasn't my art, it was stressful. And when I noticed that for the first time, the thing I loved taking photos had become stressful. I was like, nope. And I learned there that actually, you know, getting the dream isn't always what you think it will be. And I realized, you know what? I actually don't want to put pressure on my art. Art for me is a mental wealth tool. Art is healing, art is medicine, art is joy. So then I decided I'm just

gonna make art for me for fun. And if people appreciate it, cool. So I've had quite a few art shows through the years. I, funny enough, when I started drawing and painting five minutes a day in a depression as sort of a healthy habit, that led to me having more art shows and making hundreds of pieces of art more than ever, completely on its own. That led to me making this first ever rad hat on the beach in Hawaii, Maomai, on the big island. I hope I said that correctly. And shout out to Sally, my my Hawaiian Ohana family. This hat I made because I was

sitting on the beach a little sad, drawing in my journal, and I got the hat, and I thought, what if I just painted a mantra on the hat like I was doing on paper? And that started it all. That was probably five years ago, and my first collection of rad hats, which weren't named at the time, started on Hawaii. I was driving around the island looking for like cool baseball caps and going to thrift shops, finding super cool hats. I still have a bunch of those. And then this past what about a year and a half ago, I bought a hat on Etsy because I hadn't

bought anything in a while and it was COVID, kind of the end of it, and I wanted to do something creative and I wanted to treat myself. And when the hat arrived, I thought, hmm, it was kind of painted, but I was like, I think I could, I think I could do something even cooler. And I had one hat that had a little stain on it at the top. Man, I wish I had, oh, it's right there. Maybe I'll get up and get it uh for the ones on the video. Um, and I thought, I just want to cover the stain. And it ended up turning

into a 10-hour long painting session where I was like on the internet looking at flowers because I'd never painted flowers. All my art was always mantras and really sharp lines and words. And here I was like, How do I learn how to paint a flower? And I made that hat, I fell in love with it. I really thought, man, this is rad. And then I thought, rad hats. Yeah, okay, cool. That came to me. And then I wore it and someone loved it and asked for one. And then it happened again, and it happened again. And literally within six months, I'd sold over a hundred custom

rad hats. And this company, rad hats for rad humans, just sort of started itself because I realized this is my way to not only heal myself, I was going through a hard time again. I love hats. I love painting and I love being intentional. Every hat is a mantra. This says something, it's an invitation. And when I say this, I'm pointing to the hat I'm wearing. Every piece of art I've always made, whether on the hats or the tattoos I design, which I have all over my body, and on quite a few other humans' bodies, which is such an honor. Every painting, everything is a mantra

that I draw, and I do it that way because you really have to look at it to see it. I've heard at my art shows that it's the most interactive experience. People have had because it's like a meditation. And what's funny is very few people have actually figured out what the mantras have said, and sometimes they see something I didn't even mean to draw. And now the people who have seen a lot of my art started figuring it out. So it's super cool. I've loved making rad hats. And if someone would have told me that a hat company called Rad Hats would start itself and I

would be the creator, and I would get to make hats and sell them and bring joy to other people. And they'd be at literally the coolest boutiques. And that the mayor of Sausalito, where I live, bought one recently. Oh my God. I would have said that is completely delusional. And yet I had this delusion my whole life. I'm going to be this artist and make money. And if others can do it, I can do it. But then I detached from it because it didn't seem realistic, but I wasn't even honestly that heartbroken. I just realized, you know what? There are some things that are tough. And

delusions are tricky, right? Because I think the word implies that it's like not really possible. Uh I actually don't know what the word delusion, like what the definition is in the dictionary, but I would define it as like, well, that's just not real. So you thinking it kind of makes you a bit insane, right? And yet, my other dream, and it was delusional at the time, was once I started making the hats, I realized I really rad hats are like they're for anyone who appreciates beauty and intentionality. And by the way, mental health, because I donate all the proceeds. So anything that's beyond what I spend

on my materials in the last six months, anything I sell, I donate all of it towards mental health work that I do, mental wealth work. Um, this really isn't a way for me to make a ton of money, although I'm open to making more money so that I can donate more money because art is medicine. And I made a list with a friend one day of if anyone in the world could wear my hats, who would I want to wear them? And I realized the thing that saved my life as an art form, other than painting, is music. I thought, man, musicians, I want rad musicians

to wear rad hats because I would paint their own lyrics on the hats. And my friend goes, by the way, shout out to Hannah, who I'm gonna see later today. You said to me, Well, who would you love, like if you could dream would wear your hats? And I started making a list, and the first three people on my list were Jason Mraz, Michael Fronti, and Pink, and then Stick Figure, which is my other favorite band, which Spotify just told me was my number one band I listened to most, and Jason and Pink. So I wasn't surprised. Point is, I wrote it down. It didn't make

any sense. How was that gonna happen? But I thought, you know what? I'm gonna be delusional because these humans, by the way, all love hats, from what I know. Michael Fronti was local in the bay. Jason Mraz, I still can't believe we haven't met yet, but we will, I believe, at some point, because I just want to hug you and thank you. I know you like your hats. And pink, I mean, you're always in a cool hat. And you're just my soul sister on so many levels. So uh it just, I made a list, dreaming, delusional, and then I detached from it because it wasn't about

these people and it wasn't about anyone in particular wearing the hat. It was about me allowing myself to do me, to make my art, to be rad. Okay, what does rad stand for? Really awesome detour. The hats were a really awesome detour. And by the way, three months after I started Rad Hats for Rad Humans, I met a dog named Rad at the shelter on a day where I suddenly woke up and for the first time in my life thought, I want to get a dog. And his name was Radagast Rad. And he came over and put his head on my knee and I took him

home. And I was terrified because I never had a dog and I never really liked him. And he is the greatest detour of my life. So people think that I named the Rad Hats after Rad or Rad after Rat Hats. And no, it just happened. The plan the universe has is really much bigger. And how is this connected to Jason Mraz, Michael Fronti, Pink dancing? Uh this year, by a sheer, I'm gonna say coincidence, although I don't really believe in that. Synchronicity, uh, maybe it was just time. Michael Fronti was playing at the Mill Valley Music Festival, which is like five minutes from me. And I

have a friend. She was one of my first rad humans who got a rad hat. She's amazing. She has a friend who's a photographer. Her photographer friend saw one of her hats, one of my hats that I made, a rad hat. And she said, Hey, I'm uh I'm going to the Mill Valley Music Festival. I'm photographing Michael Fronti. Maybe I can borrow a rad hat and wear it. I want to kind of look cool. Because I think he, you know, would appreciate that. It's going to be that kind of vibe. And my friend asked me, Hey, do you have a rad hat you can let her

borrow? I said, Let me do an even better thing. Yes, Anne, I'm going to make Michael Fronti a hat because I love him. He was on my list. Maybe she could give it to him. Well, I had a few hours to make this hat. And also I just moved into my rad hat studio and it was a disaster. I had like hundreds of hats and supplies. So I wasn't, it was kind of delusional to think that I could A find a hat that would fit him because I didn't know, but I saw based on his amazing like dreads and just look, I was like, okay, I

think it's gonna have to be a bigger hat. And do I even have the right hat? And I said, fuck it, I'm gonna do this and it's just gonna flow. And I made that hat, and not only did she give it to him, but he wore it for his performance. And I have the most beautiful freaking images. And when I saw that, not only was it amazing that literally the number one song I played this year is a Michael Fronti song. I believe. I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, no matter what you do. I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe. It'll all come

back to you. Oh, yes, thank you. Seeing you wear my hat, I'm talking to you, wherever you are, Mr. Michael Fronti. I love your heart, I love your music, uh, was incredible because not only was it incredible because that was the vision, but it it just happened completely last minute. It was a dream, it was delusional. I completely detached and then I showed up. I danced in the moment. And a few months later, on my birthday, when I went to see Jason Moraz, because I always see him when he's in town, um, a friend of mine said, huh, same friend who suggested I make that list,

said, By the way, Svet, the band that's opening up for Jason, uh, I I know, I know the lead singer. So if you make him that hat you've always wanted to make him, we'll get it to him like that night. And I did. And uh I believe the hat still hasn't actually made it to him, but it's on its way. There were some detours along the way, but I've been watching Jason on Dancing with the Stars, and that's why I'm tying this back to dancing. And I'm so excited for the day that he does get his rad hat. I I think initially I was like, oh

my gosh, he's finally gonna get the rad hat, and then we can meet, and I and and then I was like, wait a minute, it's like not even about uh him getting the hat. And I wanted him to reach out and for us to be friends, which would be cool. It's still one of my dreams to just hang out with Jason Raz, yes you, someone tell him if you know him on his avocado farm and just talk all night. I just want to know you better. Um, but just yeah, that that happened. It wasn't about that. I just want him to get a gift because that

is for me, I'm a gift giver. That's my love language. And the fact that again, another person on that list was somehow getting a hat made me so happy. It was my way of thanking these people for literally saving my life. Uh, it was really truly delusional. I detached from it. I had fun with it. It was such a joy. It was such a dream. And I was able to also not only dance with the moment of uh saying yes, making that hat last minute, getting that together, but also I detached from, I haven't spoken to either of these people yet. They didn't reach out to

me. I don't know they ever will, and that's not the point. I realize it's deeper than that. It's about the gift of making art, it's about the gift of saying yes and also saying no, right? If I hadn't said no to this delusional dream of making all this money as an artist in my early 20s, I don't think I would have been in a position to, yeah, just have created the space and the energy where the hat company started itself. And yesterday I dropped off my first ever pair of rad shoes at my favorite boutique, Carl. Carl, the store in Sausolito. My first job ever was

selling shoes. I have loved shoes my whole life. Shoes and hats. And now I'm painting them and people are buying them and I'm donating money to mental health. I mean, honestly, I'm kind of amazed at how things unfold when we just follow our dreams, even if they're seeming to be too big and delusional. And if we really remind ourselves that that's the point, it's not achieving the thing. So that's the detachment suggestion and lesson, perhaps. Detaching for me means I am I'm so excited about it. I want it, but I don't need it to be okay. I don't need the thing that I'm dreaming to happen

exactly the way I would like. Because that is never gonna happen. When has something happened exactly the way you imagined? Honestly, usually when shit falls apart like that, and then enough time goes by, I'm like, oh yeah, this happened even better. But you gotta be open to that, right? So again, mantras help me. My two mantras that I want to start wrapping up with are a no, is a yes to something better. And I am exactly perfectly on time. I say this because to me, those two mantras are a reminder that pivots happen. We can choose to pivot, we can choose to have a really awesome

detour and live a more rad life. We can choose to be delusional if we want, if we want to go bigger. We can choose to detach a little bit. Yeah, yeah, keep detaching. And we can remember that to hold back on going for a dream because our mind inevitably will say, Well, that's not gonna happen. I'm scared. What if I'll fail? Fucking yeah, fail. Fail as much as you can. Get embarrassed. I think if you're not embarrassed by yourself, you're kind of not growing or doing anything. So embracing embarrassment is a big thing and a whole other episode. Ha ha. You like how I'm you know

pitching that? But it's true. Everything is connected, it's also connected to listening. Listen to your dreams, stop putting them away. I'll do this when I'll do it later. How do you know you're gonna have a later? Look at the world we're living in. I'm not trying to scare you, but you do not know that tomorrow is guaranteed. You do not know that when you retire, you'll suddenly even have the energy or whatever to do the thing. If you have a dream, there's a reason for it. If you can imagine it, I think it exists in some reality for sure, but you gotta show up. Let yourself

be delusional when it comes to dreaming. Remind myself, remind yourself, see that Freudian slip. I'm reminding myself through this that whether you get it or not isn't the point. Detach from that perfect way of it going or happening or how you're gonna feel anytime as a coach that a client says, Well, I'll be happy when. If you can't find that now, and if you can't at least enjoy the process, peaceful productivity is what I have to do to be like, you know what? As I'm working on this thing that I want to work on, and I got some big things I want to work on because

that's the only thing that grounds me on this planet is at least working on myself, aligning to my own values, trying to make the smallest little bit of a difference in my life and the life of the people closest to me so that it ripples out, right? I'm not trying to save the whole world anymore. I I used to think I'm a healer and I want to help with all these things. Yes, and no. I release and detach myself from having to do anything. I'm choosing to keep dreaming, to keep inspiring people to have a dream, because truly, just having a dream and working towards a

dream is so beautiful. I find that that, you know, the journey is usually better than the destination. So I don't think it's the journey, not the destination. I think it's the journey and the destination. Both are beautiful and great in their own way, and both are surprisingly more complicated than I think we would have expected. So just show up, dance in that moment like Jason danced in all those moments. Oh my God, seriously. Learning how to dance is hard. Uh, it's it's complicated. So just going through that, even when you struggle. Yeah, I saw those weeks, you know, what four and five, and you're you triumphed,

Jason, and we can all triumph if we keep going. Be a bit delusional about well, what if, what if I can do it, and what if I don't, but I get something better. A no is a yes to something better, loves. You are exactly perfectly on time. So whether you're working on a dream and you're a bit stuck, or whether you've never even allowed yourself to dream, or maybe you've allowed yourself to dream, but you haven't gone for it, which I think is most people because of fear or inner critic work or whatever, consider what it would feel like, what would it be like to actually

believe that just taking a step forward towards the dream might be the whole point. Things will unfold as you go. Often, I mean, always I ask people as a coach, what do you want? What do you want to work on? You know how often that changes along the coaching experience? I would say 100% of the time. Really awesome detours, all right? Be rad, stay rad. Give yourself the gift of the four D's, all right? Keep dreaming delusionally, keep detaching, keep dancing with yourself, keep dancing with your life, keep dancing with the people around you. And if you step on someone's toe, say you're sorry. And if

someone steps on your toe, try to have some compassion because they probably didn't mean to do it. And if they did mean to step on your toe, then fuck them. And then, you know, stepping back on them probably won't help. But, you know, we're human and uh things hurt, and things hurt less, I think, when you're living an authentic life, all right? Okay, dream on. See you next time. Episode seven is gonna be epic. Oh, just kidding. I'm not gonna finish. You think I forgot to check in on how that was from a listening perspective? How'd it feel to listen to me talking quite fast? Remember,

I'm a fast talker. Uh, how'd it feel to notice what your mind said about dreaming? How did it feel to hear about freaking awesome musicians? And by the way, I just want to say stick figure, I'm ready to make your hats when you're ready. Thank you. Thank you to the musicians out there, thank you to all the humans out there who, by following their dreams and having the courage to fail and not succeed, create so much, so much healing and inspiration for all of us. So, this week, as you go off, your homework from the listening school is keep remembering the power of masterful listening. Pay

attention to that voice inside your head, to those thoughts of what if I could do this? I dream of this. Just notice that. Write them down. Then ask yourself, how do I be a bit more delusional? How do I make it bigger? And what would it be like to make it bigger? Imagine it and then let it go. Just do the thing that you're pulled. Do the thing that your dream is pulling you to do. And dance a little, all right? Dance a little because here's the thing: when we're dancing and we're present, we can't even really be doing anything at that time. I think dancing

is the ultimate loving listening. You're letting yourself and your body just be in the moment fully with the energy and the space and the person.

All right, I'm gonna go salsa dance this week. Ciao. Keep listening, all right? Masterfully.

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